I plan on getting a pistol after this law goes into effect, I have an Active CPL. Will my experience be any different after July 1st?

I also plan on grabbing some lowers (AR-10 and AR-15) and a M&P 15-22 this month so I dont have to deal with the crap.

Also what stops someone from driving to Idaho to avoid this whole thing with rifles?

I1639 is just a few weeks away, and the state finally released their new Firearm Transfer Application. To say we're frustrated is an understatement.

It demonstrates a clear lack of leadership from the FBI, WA AG's office, and/or the WA DOL. They are clearly not communicating. The form from the DOL doesn't allow us to do the things the AG and FBI say we need to do. Further, we have been supplying local law enforcement with what little info we're getting because the state hasn't deemed it necessary to keep them updated as to their role in this mess.

What do we have for info? The FBI says we can no longer do instant checks on semi-automatic rifles, handguns, and frames/receivers. They need to be submitted to local law enforcement. The state says we need to fill out their transfer form and physically mail it to the law enforcement agency. The agency is supposed to do the background check, and then physically mail it back. It cannot be done in less than 30 days (per an official release by King County). At 30 days, the paperwork expires. So either nobody will get their guns, or everybody will and we won't find out until later whether they legally should have. Again, there's no guidance from the state on this.

This all assumes that we could properly submit the form for a background check in the first place. We can't. The FBI says we can't use their system for a check on a receiver. The state form doesn't have a section for a receiver. We are three weeks out, and nobody has a mechanism in place for us to run a background check on a receiver. Do we not sell them? Are they no longer subject to a background check? Somebody needs to own this, but nobody currently is.

While I'm griping about the forms, let's dig into that a bit deeper. There's a box the purchaser must check on the state form, acknowledging that it's a forfeiture of HIPPA privacy. Handguns are just supposed to be for that instant. Semi-automatic rifles would be permanent. But there's only one box to check. So is it one, the other, both, or neither? Nobody knows. The form to request information is even more odd. The DOL says their website and database won't be ready for a year, and there's no funding or labor at all for it right now. Yet, this form is supposed to be processed by these imaginary employees using a website that doesn't exist, so you can see what guns the state thinks you own. Right.

Oh, and don't forget these classes you're supposed to take before buying a semi-automatic rifle. What classes count? No idea. Who can teach them? No idea. What test do you take and what forms do you fill out? No idea. What website do we check to make sure you did what you're supposed to do? It's the one the DOL says won't be done for a year. **Edit: One of our followers pointed me to some new language the state has for this. Apparently the state has given up on monitoring and regulating this. There will be no database. They do have restrictions on who can teach the class and what material must be included, but there are standards or tests and will be no way for me to verify if a certificate is real or fake. Thanks Washington.**

The most frustrating part is that this is not even an attempt at curbing crime. Not one dollar or one minute of time is directed towards crime or criminals. This will destroy a background check system that works pretty darn well. The voters who pushed this through have wrecked a functional background check system, and virtually guaranteed that more bad guys will get guns. July 1 is going to be an ugly day in Washington.

.... what happens if you check "No"? I'll test that one out.

Was wondering the same.

.... what happens if you check "No"? I'll test that one out.

You read my mind.

My guess is a denial...

and a lawsuit..

Your WA ID

He said rifles. ID can buy here, and WA can buy in ID when it comes to rifles.

Here’s how my crystal ball says this is gonna play out:

You go in there to buy a Ruger 10/22. You fill out the paperwork, check “no” to the offensive bits, and write a $25 check to the DOL. Then you go home and begin your waiting period.

The dealer mails off this form and counts down until 10 days pass.

You come back on the 11th day and your dealer shrugs because they never received an answer from the CLEO or sheriff. They hand you your rifle and you take it home to put in your safe.

Three months later, once the paperwork has actually been processed and they see your “no”, they’ll send a denial to the dealer. The dealer tells them you already have the gun. An argument ensues about who’s responsible for getting the gun back because you’re now denied.

You might get a call from the dealer asking for the, now well used, rifle back. Or Officer Friendly will knock at your door to ask for the rifle back.

Then what? Refuse to comply with the SWAT team that gets called because you told Officer Friendly to pound sand? Turn the rifle over then file a lawsuit that you’ll lose because this is the BS law that was voted in?


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