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 Questions about the new law on P80 builds? 
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spaghetti monster wrote:
Nitro_Guns wrote:
He is referring to this section:
Not sure this bill has been passed into law as of now:

"Untraceable firearm" means any firearm manufactured after July 1, 2019, that is not an antique firearm and that cannot be traced by law enforcement by means of a serial number affixed to the firearm by a federally licensed manufacturer or importer.

Possession does not appear to be the issue....

That is still just a definition of an untraceable firearm. Does it state that possession of one is illegal?


JFC.....No one has said that possession is illegal.

As far as Pablo's comment, it would appear that they are changing the rules as of July 1st.

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Nitro_Guns wrote:
spaghetti monster wrote:
Nitro_Guns wrote:
He is referring to this section:
Not sure this bill has been passed into law as of now:

"Untraceable firearm" means any firearm manufactured after July 1, 2019, that is not an antique firearm and that cannot be traced by law enforcement by means of a serial number affixed to the firearm by a federally licensed manufacturer or importer.

Possession does not appear to be the issue....

That is still just a definition of an untraceable firearm. Does it state that possession of one is illegal?


JFC.....No one has said that possession is illegal.

As far as Pablo's comment, it would appear that they are changing the rules as of July 1st.

But nobody here is a "federally licensed manufacturer or importer".......................

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Nitro_Guns wrote:
spaghetti monster wrote:
Nitro_Guns wrote:
He is referring to this section:
Not sure this bill has been passed into law as of now:

"Untraceable firearm" means any firearm manufactured after July 1, 2019, that is not an antique firearm and that cannot be traced by law enforcement by means of a serial number affixed to the firearm by a federally licensed manufacturer or importer.

Possession does not appear to be the issue....

That is still just a definition of an untraceable firearm. Does it state that possession of one is illegal?


JFC.....No one has said that possession is illegal.

As far as Pablo's comment, it would appear that they are changing the rules as of July 1st.

Then there is reason to think it needs a serial number, and Pablo's comment all it says is you can't manufacture it with the intent to sell. That is already a federal law.


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You can't own an "undetectable" you can own an "untraceable".

Remember when a P80 is shipped here, it's not a firearm.

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Pablo wrote:
You can't own an "undetectable" you can own an "untraceable".

Remember when a P80 is shipped here, it's not a firearm.

And you can't build one with the intent to sell, which is already against federal law. So has anything really changed?


Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:45 am
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spaghetti monster wrote:
Pablo wrote:
You can't own an "undetectable" you can own an "untraceable".

Remember when a P80 is shipped here, it's not a firearm.

And you can't build one with the intent to sell, which is already against federal law. So has anything really changed?



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Thanks everyone for chiming in I picked up one today without any worries. :woohoo:

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