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I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class work?
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Author:  stevemcgee [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class work?
I've read several websites and looked up classes online, and can take a live class soon.

But what I don't understand is - will I get the license if I take the class?

It seems like I cannot get a UT license without first getting a WA license, so I can't use UT as a way to solve the 'no fingerprinting until further notice' problem.

And, it seems like I can take the classes, but will still be subject to applications, a police department willing to fingerprint me, and the whims of a sheriff whether he wants to issue or not...

Am I basically screwed and unarmed until Fauci says it's safe to live my fucking life again?
Author:  KeystoneCowboy [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
AZ is constitutional carry. So you used to get it to "unlock" some Southwestern states' reciprocity. No longer the case. Need Wa to get Utah. I did a class years ago to get Oregon and Utah. That gets me 35-37 states I believe.
Author:  stevemcgee [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
So it sounds like my understanding is right. I can't get a permit until the sheriff in my area starts doing his job again?
Author:  KeystoneCowboy [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
stevemcgee wrote:
So it sounds like my understanding is right. I can't get a permit until the sheriff in my area starts doing his job again?


I do believe so, yes.
Author:  MadPick [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
stevemcgee wrote:
So it sounds like my understanding is right. I can't get a permit until the sheriff in my area starts doing his job again?


That's correct.

But, it's not about the requirements that other states have. It's about Washington's requirements:
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.41.073

If you are a WA resident, then WA will only recognize a WA CPL.
Author:  golddigger14s [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
I went through Legal Heat:
https://mylegalheat.com/classes/?msclki ... c39c3121dc
Just get the AZ one it gives you one more state than UT.
Author:  stevemcgee [ Tue Aug 11, 2020 5:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
golddigger14s wrote:
I went through Legal Heat:
https://mylegalheat.com/classes/?msclki ... c39c3121dc
Just get the AZ one it gives you one more state than UT.


I was planning to go through them, but then I noticed that none of it will make me free from infringement from driving in my car with my AR-9 until the police in WA start fulfilling their obligation to me.
Author:  Normanator [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 4:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
stevemcgee wrote:
golddigger14s wrote:
I went through Legal Heat:
https://mylegalheat.com/classes/?msclki ... c39c3121dc
Just get the AZ one it gives you one more state than UT.


I was planning to go through them, but then I noticed that none of it will make me free from infringement from driving in my car with my AR-9 until the police in WA start fulfilling their obligation to me.


Did I miss where the AZ class is offered online? Looks like all in person only...
Author:  stevemcgee [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
It's offered live in the trinity area this weekend.
Author:  oldkim [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
While you wait...

For both WA State and taking the class for AZ and/or UT.
I would recommend you request AZ and/or UT application packets.

Arizona
https://www.azdps.gov/services/public/c ... 20envelope.

Utah
https://bci.utah.gov/concealed-firearm/ ... rm-permit/

Some of it you can do online (upload documents etc).
But you can always just order the "packet" sent to you.

I have UT and just renewed online. Was way too easy (the way it should be).
Do the paperwork, pay the fees.
Remember each state has their own rules about what/how/where to conceal.

*some classes may have packets but they may just tell you to order one yourself after the class
Author:  stevemcgee [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
Thanks.

I was hoping to take a class that handled everything, but this state makes a fingerprinted at a police station the monopoly bottleneck on my rights. Really sucks.
Author:  Isildur [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
FBI fingerprint cards are available on Amazon.
Ditto the ink pad.
Roll your own.
The UT class that I took years ago did the prints there, everybody partnered up & helped each other.
Author:  MadPick [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
Isildur wrote:
FBI fingerprint cards are available on Amazon.
Ditto the ink pad.
Roll your own.
The UT class that I took years ago did the prints there, everybody partnered up & helped each other.


Yes, but make really sure that your local PD or sheriff will accept that fingerprint card, before you do.
Author:  stevemcgee [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
Just learned some hopeful news here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WA_guns/commen ... ms_lawyer/

Kirkland PD will accept CPL applications with 3rd party fingerprints, at least for now.
Kirkland is part of King County.
I live in Seattle, part of King County.

As I understand it, I can go to the county if my city PD isn't available. It's something I have to verify.
Author:  MadPick [ Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: I don't understand CPL permits UT/AZ etc. Will a class w
stevemcgee wrote:
Kirkland is part of King County.
I live in Seattle, part of King County.


I don't think that logic works. If you're in Seattle, I think your choices are Seattle PD or King County Sheriff.

But if you find out otherwise, please let us know . . . I suspect Kirkland will have a rush!
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