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 Civil disobedience at the New Year's Shoot? 
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In light of some sheriffs refusing to enforce I-594 (but notably not Thurston County's that I'm aware of) and the demonstration where the WSP refused to enforce the law, do people plan on sharing around their firearms at the shoot?

My wife was concerned about this because she doesn't really understand the law (she's in fine company I think), and was trying to explain it to one of her friends (who's a lawyer) who couldn't understand it either. She's worried that she'll have to hand any of our firearms back to me immediately if someone new shows up who could be a LEO. I explained that's not a problem between spouses, and theoretically not at an "assigned gun range".

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Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


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OK, good, then I would like to fire someone's AR10/PTR91/HK91/CETME/M14/M1A to see if my shoulder will put up with a semi-auto .308. I suspect not, but I'd like to try.

I'd also like to have Rita try out a few carry pistols. I've got her mostly convinced to get her CPL, if we can find a revolver she likes that might help.

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OK, good, then I would like to fire someone's AR10/PTR91/HK91/CETME/M14/M1A to see if my shoulder will put up with a semi-auto .308. I suspect not, but I'd like to try.

I'd also like to have Rita try out a few carry pistols. I've got her mostly convinced to get her CPL, if we can find a revolver she likes that might help.


And when your shoulder fails then what? How about you start with my Remington 700 with a K.I. break on it?

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I think a semi-auto would have less recoil than the 700.

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Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


It is also at a range, and therefore exempt.


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I think a semi-auto would have less recoil than the 700.

Have you used the K.I. break? You can shoot it one handed.

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I think a semi-auto would have less recoil than the 700.

Have you used the K.I. break? You can shoot it one handed.


Yes . . . I have one on my .308 Rem 700. :thumbsup2:

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Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


It is also at a range, and therefore exempt.

The guns have to belong to the range, and remain at the range.

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Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


It is also at a range, and therefore exempt.

The guns have to belong to the range, and remain at the range.


Where does it say they have to "belong to the range"?

And your interpretation is that they have to remain at the range forever, which is impossible, because how would the gun get there, or get repaired? No, it means that you can pass a gun to someone at the range for them to shoot it, but the gun has to stay remain there at all times during the temporary transfer. i.e. it has to leave with the original owner.


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Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


It is also at a range, and therefore exempt.

The guns have to belong to the range, and remain at the range.


Where does it say they have to "belong to the range"?

And your interpretation is that they have to remain at the range forever, which is impossible, because how would the gun get there, or get repaired? No, it means that you can pass a gun to someone at the range for them to shoot it, but the gun has to stay remain there at all times during the temporary transfer. i.e. it has to leave with the original owner.



please stop defending your pet initiative

How bout instead staying out of the discussion and add something of value to other threads?

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And when your shoulder fails then what? How about you start with my Remington 700 with a K.I. break on it?



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I had one on, now its super silent


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I think a semi-auto would have less recoil than the 700.

Have you used the K.I. break? You can shoot it one handed.


Just tempting to go and give you a try at it

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ANZAC wrote:
golddigger14s wrote:
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Massivedesign wrote:
Yes, we plan on sharing guns because this is an Organized Event, and therefor exempt from the grasps of 594


It is also at a range, and therefore exempt.

The guns have to belong to the range, and remain at the range.


Where does it say they have to "belong to the range"?

And your interpretation is that they have to remain at the range forever, which is impossible, because how would the gun get there, or get repaired? No, it means that you can pass a gun to someone at the range for them to shoot it, but the gun has to stay remain there at all times during the temporary transfer. i.e. it has to leave with the original owner.


Well try one more time :gibbs:

The initiative says very clearly ranges are exempt for guns kept permanently at the range.
If you read it closely technically sharing around is in violation. Most sherrifs and others are just deciding to take the easy route out and ignore anything that happens at a range with regards to 594. Unless the transfer takes place there and different people go how with what was originally someone else's gun.
But even then probably going to be completely ignored. unless the gun gets used in a crime down the road.

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The initiative says very clearly ranges are exempt for guns kept permanently at the range.


Where does it say permanently?


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please stop defending your pet initiative

How bout instead staying out of the discussion and add something of value to other threads?


I'm not defending it, it is the law now. I'm pointing out there's no issue with sharing guns at a range, go and have fun.
If people want to misread the law (like the tax issue etc), I guess they can not share their guns at the range then.


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