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594, Nevada & the FBI
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Site Supporter   Location: Oly Joined: Thu Oct 4, 2012 Posts: 1342 
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Since the FBI just told Nevada that they won't be doing private party background checks, what implications will it have here? Can Washington get the same ruling?
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/12/28/bloomberg-blows-20-million-on-busted-bg-check-bill/ |
| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:20 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Puyallup Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2011 Posts: 4996 Real Name: Sean
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Interesting
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| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:24 pm |
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 Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52064 Real Name: Steve
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Holy shit.
 I wonder why the FBI hasn't done the same thing with WA? What's special about Nevada? _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Patriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Member, NAGR/NFGR Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:24 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Puyallup Joined: Fri Aug 12, 2011 Posts: 4996 Real Name: Sean
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MadPick wrote: Holy shit. I wonder why the FBI hasn't done the same thing with WA? What's special about Nevada? They have legal brothels and big casinos _________________ smfh |
| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:27 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bonney Lake WA Joined: Tue Apr 16, 2013 Posts: 226
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My first question would be if the Nevada initiative mandated the use of an existing FFL dealer to complete the transfer, or did it allow for citizens to conduct the checks themselves? If the proposed law was similar in structure to ours, the same ruling from the Fed's should apply.
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| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:33 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16044 Real Name: Steve
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Nevada is a point of contact for NICS; they do all the work themselves through their own system and so are not allowed to use NICS.
WA is not a point of contact state. _________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr. "...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins |
| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:35 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: England Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 Posts: 2954 Real Name: Michael
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According to the article it is because the FBI would have to hire more people to do back ground checks. Who performs the checks in Washington state local/state LEO or FBI?
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| Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:38 pm |
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 Location: Selah Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2015 Posts: 459
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Maybe after the new administration is in place the new FBI budget won't have the extra money to do background checks of honest people.
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| Wed Dec 28, 2016 6:36 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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The issue is they said the FBI must do X in the state bill. Can't do that.
594 said you must go to a FFL. |
| Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:42 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Jul 5, 2012 Posts: 3068 Real Name: Glenn(sted)
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MadPick wrote: Holy shit. I wonder why the FBI hasn't done the same thing with WA? What's special about Nevada? With a small portion of the west side controlling all of Washington, we're a lost cause? |
| Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:19 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Mohave Valley Arizona Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 13371 Real Name: Casey
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I love it, the leftist New Yorker WASTED $20M and got NOTHING for it.....that just made my day!
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| Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:52 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17819 Real Name: Chuck
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Nevada is one of 12 “points of contact” states that run their own gun background checks rather than relying solely on the FBI’s system.
_________________ "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson "Evil often triumphs, but never conquers." Joseph Roux |
| Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:58 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lynnwood/Bothell Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 8564 Real Name: Curtis
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ANZAC wrote: The issue is they said the FBI must do X in the state bill. Can't do that. 594 said you must go to a FFL. I think this is the key distinction between the laws in NV and WA. States can't legislate federal agencies into action. As the law of unintended consequences continue to play out in accordance with the anti-freedom agenda, I wonder what will happen with NICS as more states adopt laws resembling 594. Will the FBI be even more overwhelmed than they already are? What will they do about it? |
| Thu Dec 29, 2016 9:58 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: Renton/Kent Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 Posts: 3550 Real Name: Jacy
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golddigger14s wrote: Nevada is one of 12 “points of contact” states that run their own gun background checks rather than relying solely on the FBI’s system. Maybe I don't understand this correctly, but if NV runs their own how would that make a larger burden on the FBI? If anything, shouldn't WA's UBC be even more of a burden since our system relies solely on the NICS? Maybe the FBI needs to step in here, too. |
| Thu Dec 29, 2016 10:07 am |
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In Memoriam  Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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They will just conduct business as usual, having more people get delayed.
Guns4Liberty wrote: Will the FBI be even more overwhelmed than they already are? What will they do about it? _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
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