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victoriassecret
Location: WA Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 Posts: 52
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I apologize if this has been posted, I couldn't find anything on it, but according to this list https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart, WA CPL holders can skip the background check requirements of the Brady law. But, I am wondering under I-594 if a CPL will work for private sales too? I'm guessing not
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:04 pm |
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Shonmow
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Location: Shoreline, WA Joined: Tue May 10, 2016 Posts: 41
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Since initiative 594 was enacted a background check is required on all sale of firearms be it private or from a dealer. There are a lot of gun stores throughout the Puget Sound, and Washington that will facilitate the paperwork for a fee usually around $40 I Hope this helps
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:23 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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victoriassecret wrote: I apologize if this has been posted, I couldn't find anything on it, but according to this list https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart, WA CPL holders can skip the background check requirements of the Brady law. But, I am wondering under I-594 if a CPL will work for private sales too? I'm guessing not No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales. You need to go to an FFL and the FFL follows the process: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=76956
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:48 pm |
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Pablo
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ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:52 pm |
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Benja455
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Location: White Center Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 6489
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Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. Yep, it's not about safety - it's about making gun ownership a huge hassle.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:55 pm |
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jdhbulseye
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Location: Rochester, WA Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 Posts: 3761
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Benja455 wrote: Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. Yep, it's not about safety - it's about making gun ownership a huge hassle. Psssst. DO NOT tell ANZAC this.
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"The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction." - St. George Tucker
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:14 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. You're assuming way too much.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:46 pm |
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victoriassecret
Location: WA Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 Posts: 52
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Thanks guys. I even asked a Kitsap County Sheriff's deputy about this and he said he assumed a CPL was sufficient. Pretty funny that LE can't even comprehend the BS of the law
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:00 pm |
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ANZAC
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victoriassecret wrote: Thanks guys. I even asked a Kitsap County Sheriff's deputy about this and he said he assumed a CPL was sufficient. Pretty funny that LE can't even comprehend the BS of the law Cops are always most familiar with the laws they encounter most (laws that have been around for a while with frequent offenders). I'm always pointing stuff out our deputies don't know, especially about guns.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:02 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28187
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ANZAC wrote: Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. You're assuming way too much. Oh I know. Sandy Brown, Fascatelli and the like. They said it. They could give a rat for CPL holders. I try to pay attention to these things. It IS frustrating, and that aspect got no traction. I am bringing it up. I asked Dino Rossi: Quote: I am wondering as a 2nd Amendment supporter, if you might support a bill to allow a 594 exemption for CPL holders for private sales. Both parties have a current CPL (which means background check already) - why should they have to pay the fees and the huge hassle of going to an FFL?
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:11 pm |
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Benja455
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ANZAC wrote: Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. You're assuming way too much. Au contraire mon frere...he assumes nothing - the intentions of 594's authors/financial backers were quite clear.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:12 pm |
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victoriassecret
Location: WA Joined: Wed Jan 18, 2017 Posts: 52
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ANZAC wrote: victoriassecret wrote: Thanks guys. I even asked a Kitsap County Sheriff's deputy about this and he said he assumed a CPL was sufficient. Pretty funny that LE can't even comprehend the BS of the law Cops are always most familiar with the laws they encounter most (laws that have been around for a while with frequent offenders). I'm always pointing stuff out our deputies don't know, especially about guns. True, the only laws he seemed familiar with were firearm discharge ordinances and OC/CC. I was on a ridealong with him, so we really got to talkin'.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:14 pm |
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17819
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Police officers can carry concealed with their dept. ID, but still need a WA CPL to buy a HG and take it home the same day. Get a CPL everybody.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:49 pm |
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mislabeled
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Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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victoriassecret wrote: ANZAC wrote: victoriassecret wrote: Thanks guys. I even asked a Kitsap County Sheriff's deputy about this and he said he assumed a CPL was sufficient. Pretty funny that LE can't even comprehend the BS of the law Cops are always most familiar with the laws they encounter most (laws that have been around for a while with frequent offenders). I'm always pointing stuff out our deputies don't know, especially about guns. True, the only laws he seemed familiar with were firearm discharge ordinances and OC/CC. I was on a ridealong with him, so we really got to talkin'. Some LEOs have gone on record as saying 594 is such a low priority as to be nearly non-existent. Maybe some of them see a CPL as more meaningful than a law that is being basically ignored.
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Tue Jan 17, 2017 8:01 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7251
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Benja455 wrote: ANZAC wrote: Pablo wrote: ANZAC wrote: No, there's no exemption for CPL holders for private sales.
And that my friends was very much on purpose. You're assuming way too much. Au contraire mon frere...he assumes nothing - the intentions of 594's authors/financial backers were quite clear. Actually I quizzed the "authors" on a variety of points (things that could have been better) and was told to GTFO because they had "top men" working on it. There were many things they clearly did NOT understand.
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