I may soon be renewing my membership to the "2 gun club", i.e. purchasing 2 guns in the same transaction, which I have done at least once before. I know its been discussed elsewhere from time to time but in light of the aforementioned I am curious about all of the circumstances that can invoke the need for the bullshit 2 gun paperwork to be filled out by a dealer.

Last time I did the 2 gat challenge I bought 2 pistols from Cabela's. Which I understand means the dealer is required to fill out a special form (cant recall the name of the form) and send it in. Where do they have to send it again? I have forgotten.

This time, if I do it, the 2 boomsticks will be long guns. Does this still trigger the requirement for more paper?

I have a CPL (Not that that makes one lick of difference)

It's two pistols in one day, shouldn't apply to two long guns.

Keep it under five for the long guns and don’t sweat paper work.

Why under 5?

Also does anyone know if there is a certain frequency of purchases that if exceeded gets you flagged or potentially visited? I'd rather not interact directly with the BATFE FLEAs

You all need to stop stressing, and buy what the eff you want, and when you want to.

I’m going to free style my response.

On the 4473 there’s four rows for recording firearms being transferred on page 3.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/4473- ... 9/download


Then add in this form as well

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/form/ ... orm-331012

1. This form is to be used by licensees to report all transactions in which an unlicensed person acquired, at one time or during five consecutive business days, two or more semi-automatic rifles larger than .22 caliber (including .223/5.56 caliber) with the ability to accept a detachable magazine. This form is not required when the rifles are returned to the same person from whom they are received

The information is used to determine if the buyer (transferee) is involved in a unlawful activity, or is a person prohibited by law from obtaining firearms.

Well, thank you. It seems the instructions on the form you provided the link for seem to contradict some of the information I have been given in the past, namely:



So it absolutely CAN apply to two long guns, if they meet certain criteria.

In addition...

I found this description of why the form is needed to be hilarious:



Especially when I can find nothing on the form that isn't already on the 4473 that I can tell which would allow them to "determine if the buyer (transferee) is involved in a unlawful activity, or is a person prohibited by law from obtaining firearms." So i think this form is bullshit. Welcome to the department of redundancy department.

You’re welcome.

In my opinion, the 4473 isn’t really redundant. The multiple sales document is used as an “alert the feds to investigate the purchaser”. If you’re not already on “the list”, a 4473 background check isn’t going to make you pop up on it.

I'm pretty sure I am already on a list somewhere. Probably multiple lists.

Makes me want to go buy 8 guns at once.

Need a package deal?

Well, thank you. It seems the instructions on the form you provided the link for seem to contradict some of the information I have been given in the past, namely:



So it absolutely CAN apply to two long guns, if they meet certain criteria.

In addition...

I found this description of why the form is needed to be hilarious:



Especially when I can find nothing on the form that isn't already on the 4473 that I can tell which would allow them to "determine if the buyer (transferee) is involved in a unlawful activity, or is a person prohibited by law from obtaining firearms." So i think this form is bullshit. Welcome to the department of redundancy department.