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I'd like to document the background check process that occurs when a Washington state resident buys a gun at a Washington state FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee).

The following processes apply regardless of whether you are buying a gun from an FFL or you are doing a private transfer. This does not address purchase of NFA items such as short-barreled rifles and silencers.

Long gun (rifle or shotgun) or "other" (e.g., stripped receiver)

1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form.
2) FFL submits the 4473 information to NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System), either by phone or internet.
3) NICS provides one of three responses:
- Proceed: The buyer takes the gun and the sale is concluded.
- Delay: The NICS system needs more time to make a determination. The FFL keeps the gun until NICS provides a determination, or until after ten business days have passed without a response, at which point the FFL legally may give the gun to the buyer, but is not required to do so.
- Deny: The sale may not proceed, as the buyer is has been deemed ineligible to buy a firearm.

Handgun, when the buyer has a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)
1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form and Washington state pistol transfer form.
2) FFL submits the 4473 information to NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System), either by phone or internet.
3) NICS provides one of three responses:
- Proceed: The buyer takes the gun and the sale is concluded.
- Delay: The NICS system needs more time to make a determination. The FFL keeps the gun until NICS provides a determination, or until ten business days have passed without a response, at which point the FFL legally may give the gun to the buyer, but is not required to do so.
- Deny: The sale may not proceed, as the buyer is has been deemed ineligible to buy a firearm.
4) FFL submits the Washington state pistol transfer form to the buyer's local law enforcement agency to conduct the state background check. Note that this background check is done after the buyer already has possession of the handgun, in most cases.
5) FFL submits a copy of the completed Washington State pistol transfer form to the firearms division of the Department of Licensing.

Handgun, when the buyer does not have a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)
1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form and Washington state pistol transfer form.
2) The buyer goes home; the handgun stays with the FFL.
3) FFL submits the pistol transfer form to the buyer's local law enforcement agency.
4) The buyer's local law enforcement agency conducts both federal and state background checks and provides the results to the FFL; the time required for this varies greatly.
5) The FFL notifies the buyer of the background check results; if it is "proceed" then the buyer can come to pick up the handgun.
6) If no response to the background check is received after ten business days (starting with the business day AFTER the background check info is submitted), then the FFL legally may deliver the handgun to the buyer but is not required to do so.

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Handgun, when the buyer does not have a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)
1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form and Washington state pistol transfer form.
2) The buyer goes home; the handguns stays with the FFL. I think this should be AFTER #3, and proceed to #4 only after NICS provides a "Proceed"
3) FFL submits the 4473 information and the pistol transfer form to the buyer's local law enforcement agency.
4) The buyer's local law enforcement agency conducts a background check and provides the results to the FFL; the time required for this varies greatly.
5) The FFL notifies the buyer of the background check results; if it is "proceed" then the buyer can come to pick up the handgun.
6) If no response to the background check is received within ten business days (starting with the day AFTER the background check info is submitted), then the FFL legally may give the gun to the buyer, but is not required to do so.


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You seemed to miss the most important thing.
Number one should be: Buyer pays seller UPFRONT before they fill out any 4473's.

Just my opinion.

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AR15L wrote:
You seemed to miss the most important thing.
Number one should be: Buyer pays seller UPFRONT before they fill out any 4473's.

Just my opinion.


Since there are no free FFL dealers that I know of, this would be a required step. You might also add providing valid ID with your current address matching on both CPL and DL.


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Funny how the US constitution says the feds only have jurisdiction over interstate sales.
The last time I filled out a 4473 was in 1988. When I imported a Street Sweeper, which the ATF came an got years later.

We the free People, just exchange goods for money or other good. Within the state borders.
Heck some even drive to Yakama, where you dont even have to do the instate unconstitutional paperwork.

Anything less is just tyranny, and We the People dont play that game.

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Mr Odd Six wrote:
Funny how the US constitution says the feds only have jurisdiction over interstate sales.
The last time I filled out a 4473 was in 1988. When I imported a Street Sweeper, which the ATF came an got years later.

We the free People, just exchange goods for money or other good. Within the state borders.
Heck some even drive to Yakama Auburn, where you dont even have to do the instate unconstitutional paperwork.

Anything less is just tyranny, and We the People dont play that game.


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AR15L wrote:
You seemed to miss the most important thing.
Number one should be: Buyer pays seller UPFRONT before they fill out any 4473's.

Just my opinion.


That didn't happen last time I bought a handgun. I was specifically told that they couldn't at sportsmans warehouse.

Discount Guns Federal Way only asked for a deposit after I did the background check.


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Handgun, when the buyer has a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)
1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form and Washington state pistol transfer form.
2) FFL submits the 4473 information to NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System), either by phone or internet.
3) NICS provides one of three responses:
- Proceed: The buyer takes the gun and the sale is concluded.
- Delay: The NICS system needs more time to make a determination. The FFL keeps the gun until NICS provides a determination, or until three business days have passed without a response, at which point the FFL legally may give the gun to the buyer, but is not required to do so.
- Deny: The sale may not proceed, as the buyer is has been deemed ineligible to buy a firearm.
- Open: 10 business day wait which starts first business day after submitted up to FFL up to ffl if release or not
4) FFL submits the Washington state pistol transfer form to the buyer's local law enforcement agency.
5) The buyer's local law enforcement agency conducts a background check and provides the results to the FFL; the time required for this varies greatly.
6) If the response from the local law enforcement agency is "proceed," then no action is required as the buyer already possesses the gun. If the answer is "denied," then the FFL will notify the ATF and turn the matter over to them for action if needed.

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pistol form submitted to local law just for their records. no background check required.

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Handgun, when the buyer does not have a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)
1) Buyer fills out federal 4473 form and Washington state pistol transfer form.
2) The buyer goes home; the handguns stays with the FFL.
3) FFL submits the 4473 information and the pistol transfer form to the buyer's local law enforcement agency.
4) The buyer's local law enforcement agency conducts a background check and provides the results to the FFL; the time required for this varies greatly.
5) The FFL notifies the buyer of the background check results; if it is "proceed" then the buyer can come to pick up the handgun.
6) If no response to the background check is received within ten business days (starting with the business day AFTER the background check info is submitted), then the FFL legally may give the gun to the buyer, but is not required to do so.

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can you state the point of this?


Or is this to show what happens.

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Awesome, thank you for the input, Ops. I got some other input via PM so I'll get it al incorporated.

cmica wrote:
can you state the point of this?


Or is this to show what happens.


We regularly have threads where the background check process is discussed. Maybe people are asking, "how long do I have to wait before the FFL can give it to me" or "what happens if I don't have a CPL" or whatever. It has become abundantly clear to me that:

- We all go through this process at one time or another.
- Very few of us understand what actually happens.
- The changes made by 594 made it even worse.

So . . . the only point of this thread is to document the process and create a reference thread that we can point to when these questions come up. That's it, no underlying nefarious motive. :bigsmile:

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Way to blow any conspiracy theory potential this thread had. Jeeze.

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My thought, in blue.


This is why they turned you down for that job at I 5 Guns. :cussing:

All right . . . I've incorporated the input that I got from Ops and some other folks. Please take another look. Did I get it right? Any tweaks, corrections or clarifications?

Please, hit me with them. I welcome the input.

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So what happens to the 4473 after the sale is concluded?


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So what happens to the 4473 after the sale is concluded?


Stays with the FFL, I think for 20 years?


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MadPick wrote:
Massivedesign wrote:
My thought, in blue.


This is why they turned you down for that job at I 5 Guns. :cussing:

All right . . . I've incorporated the input that I got from Ops and some other folks. Please take another look. Did I get it right? Any tweaks, corrections or clarifications?

Please, hit me with them. I welcome the input.


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Handgun, when the buyer, who is a resident of Washington State, does not have a Washington state CPL (concealed pistol license)


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