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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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Have a question for the hive mind. Bought a suppressor online, had it shipped to ffl. I have used the silencershop kiosk for my last 4 purchases and it was seamless, even if i didn’t buy it from silencershop. I purchased the $200 tax stamp from silencershop, and the ffl assigns the silencer to the tax stamp to start eform 4. Wait 9 months.
This time, silencer arrived at the ffl, and the staff seemed to have trouble what to do next. Is there anything i could do to help grease the wheel?
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:03 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52068
Real Name: Steve
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I'm confused. Is this a different FFL than before? Why the confusion?
Is it maybe related to the electronic Form 4 that is coming online?
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:13 pm |
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scrid2000
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2018 Posts: 1992
Real Name: Shane
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MadPick wrote: I'm confused. Is this a different FFL than before? Why the confusion?
Is it maybe related to the electronic Form 4 that is coming online? That would be my guess, I can't even log in.
_________________ Posts not legal advice.
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:03 pm |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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It was at the same ffl. The lgs guy that used to help me moved to east coast.
it seemed I haven't found someone there that knows how to handle nfa stuff that doesn't even involve silencershop kiosk.
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:38 pm |
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dreadi
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8374
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Morons. Tell them to go into their silencer shop account and add it to their inventory, then assign it to you. If they can’t handle that, have them send it to me and pay you for educating them on how to handle business. BLACK HAMMER ARMS Type 07 Class 2 NFA Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarmsGLOCK Certified Armourer
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Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:47 pm |
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oldkim
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Location: Maple Valley, WA Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 9271
Real Name: Young
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Snap! Love it!
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:17 am |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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Thanks! I was trying to be respectful to the new guy at the store, since i know most get zero training in nfa paperworks…
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:39 am |
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User 1234
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2018 Posts: 1127
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The shop can’t simply call Silencer Shop and ask them for instructions? Not knowing the answer is one thing, but not knowing where to look for the answer is something else.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:33 am |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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User 1234 wrote: The shop can’t simply call Silencer Shop and ask them for instructions? Not knowing the answer is one thing, but not knowing where to look for the answer is something else. I tried calling silencershop too, but their wait time is about 2 hrs. Crazy.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 11:59 am |
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dreadi
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8374
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Liddlebit81 wrote: Thanks! I was trying to be respectful to the new guy at the store, since i know most get zero training in nfa paperworks… You're welcome.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:05 pm |
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dreadi
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8374
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User 1234 wrote: The shop can’t simply call Silencer Shop and ask them for instructions? Not knowing the answer is one thing, but not knowing where to look for the answer is something else. Truly it is. Liddlebit81 wrote: User 1234 wrote: The shop can’t simply call Silencer Shop and ask them for instructions? Not knowing the answer is one thing, but not knowing where to look for the answer is something else. I tried calling silencershop too, but their wait time is about 2 hrs. Crazy. They have so many phone calls and emails coming in lately that they have taken to shutting off their Live Chat and phone system for incoming calls periodically. On Monday there was a four hour wait.
_________________BLACK HAMMER ARMSBuy A Suppressor http://www.silencershop.com/blackhammerarmsType 7 Class 2 SOT NFA Dealer 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing GLOCK Certified Armorer CMMG Authorized Dealer NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.comhttp://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarmshttps://www.instagram.com/blackhammerarms/
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm |
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User 1234
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Location: Pierce County Joined: Sun Oct 14, 2018 Posts: 1127
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Liddlebit81 wrote: User 1234 wrote: The shop can’t simply call Silencer Shop and ask them for instructions? Not knowing the answer is one thing, but not knowing where to look for the answer is something else. I tried calling silencershop too, but their wait time is about 2 hrs. Crazy. If the shop is selling NFA items they can certainly use some hourly employee’s time to monitor a phone on hold during the workday as they do other tasks. Otherwise trying to sell NFA items using the SS system is as logical as the Underpants Gnomes’ business plan on South Park. It’s like a Jiffy Lube not knowing how to add oil to an engine.
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Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:54 pm |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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So i went into the store and they assigned the silencer to my name. Now when i go into silencershop, and it says "awaiting customer eform certification".
Is there anything that needs my attention? Thanks.
Also, i have 2 silencers still in jail, and it looks like the tax stamp was cashed last April. That seems to be a bit more than the 200 days that most are being approved. Should i be concerned?
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Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:30 pm |
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dreadi
Site Supporter / FFL Dealer
Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 8374
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Your dealer should be contacting sooner or later to setup time to certify the Form 4. If you are applying as a trust, you can do it remotely. If you are applying as a individual, you will have to go in person to certify the form. You'll need an ATF eForms account for this. If you don't have one, create one, and take note of the assigned user name, and the PIN that you create. You will need your username and PIN to certify the form. The email address you use with Silencer Shop and the eForms needs to be the same, if they are processing the form through Silencer Shop.
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Wed Jan 26, 2022 6:04 pm |
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Liddlebit81
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Location: Napavine Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2017 Posts: 756
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Thanks! This eform if it works as well as it advertised, gonna be bad for my wallet.
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Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:26 pm |
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