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Pot, A Handgun and Two Teens: What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

A Seattle-area teen will be arraigned on a charge of first-degree manslaughter March 27 at King County’s Regional Justice Center in the fatal shooting of a childhood friend while the two were allegedly playing Russian roulette, according to documents obtained by Liberty Park Press.

http://libertyparkpress.com/pot-a-handg ... -go-wrong/

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Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:09 pm
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So many wrong's here...

Age, guns laying around (minors) and of course weed. Playing stupid games... Plus letting him bleed out while you "cover up" your mess.

How about just plain Stupid Common Sense... So many fails. Yes, I say he deserves the charge. It was clearly reckless and, etc, etc


Alcohol, weed or other drugs... mixed with Stupid... Is exponentially a bad thing.


Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:20 pm
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This is the reason they keep putting up more restrictive gun laws.


Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:00 pm
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The old queen should be charged as well!

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Weed and Russian Roulette had nothing to do with it.
Some asshole gut shot another guy and is making up excuses and covering it up.

I've known people who were stoned all the time.
They get lost a lot, forget what they were doing, lazy and dazed, etc.
But never heard of them shooting anyone.

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Mike in Wa wrote:
This is the reason they type of excuse they use to keep putting up more restrictive gun laws.


Fixed that for you. :thumbsup2:

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Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:46 am
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Darwin was right.

There may be no way to outlaw stupid but there is a way for it to cure itself. This is one example.

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Sad story for the victim and both families. With the statistics showing most handgun wounds are not fatal, sucks to die from being gutshot from a .38 these days. Curious what the delay was from the time of shooting until arrival of trained medical personnel / paramedics.

Poor gun storage practices by the parents, negligent firearm handling with reckless disregard of human life, compounding the wrong of shooting someone by being more concerned with what it will look like to the police, lying to the police. So many things done wrong.

Glad they're trying him as an adult with manslaughter. People go to the pen for wrongs a lot less intentional and egregious than this.

Guns and drugs don't mix simply because pot and alcohol obscure and cloud one's judgement. Lots of folks smoke pot and drink alcohol. Guns should be put away at those times.


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Sad story for the victim and both families. With the statistics showing most handgun wounds are not fatal, sucks to die from being gutshot from a .38 these days. Curious what the delay was from the time of shooting until arrival of trained medical personnel / paramedics.

Poor gun storage practices by the parents, negligent firearm handling with reckless disregard of human life, compounding the wrong of shooting someone by being more concerned with what it will look like to the police, lying to the police. So many things done wrong.

Glad they're trying him as an adult with manslaughter. People go to the pen for wrongs a lot less intentional and egregious than this.

Guns and drugs don't mix simply because pot and alcohol obscure and cloud one's judgement. Lots of folks smoke pot and drink alcohol. Guns should be put away at those times.

No parents were involved. Nor was gun storage a factor.

Old queen, young guys. Young ones take advantage of the old one. The old one does things like give them guns, to keep them hanging around.

The old queen should be charged as well.

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Personally, I'd like to see cops kill fewer people, and the courts kill more of them.~snozzberries
United Airlines: We'll beat your ass and kill your little dog too!~jdhbulseye
Notice, no school shootings in the ghetto? It's because they're already outgunned and they know it.....~TechnoWeenie
Re: Reddit Bans: It is like they are giving alcohol to monkeys, then asking them to make up new rules. ~BadKarma
Cheaters should learn to just pack bags and bags of guns into the Casino since that makes you invisible to surveillance.... ~olydemon
Our forefathers would be shooting by now. ~waglocker
Well there might be a rise in drive by airsoft attacks. ~xr650r
Will the last sane person leaving Seattle please lock the door behind them so these lunatics can't escape? ~sinus211
The big takeaway is that PETA now has more mass shooters than the NRA. ~RocketScott
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Selador wrote:
GeekWithGuns wrote:
Sad story for the victim and both families. With the statistics showing most handgun wounds are not fatal, sucks to die from being gutshot from a .38 these days. Curious what the delay was from the time of shooting until arrival of trained medical personnel / paramedics.

Poor gun storage practices by the parents, negligent firearm handling with reckless disregard of human life, compounding the wrong of shooting someone by being more concerned with what it will look like to the police, lying to the police. So many things done wrong.

Glad they're trying him as an adult with manslaughter. People go to the pen for wrongs a lot less intentional and egregious than this.

Guns and drugs don't mix simply because pot and alcohol obscure and cloud one's judgement. Lots of folks smoke pot and drink alcohol. Guns should be put away at those times.

No parents were involved. Nor was gun storage a factor.

Old queen, young guys. Young ones take advantage of the old one. The old one does things like give them guns, to keep them hanging around.

The old queen should be charged as well.


Thanks Jeff for the correction. I actually had to go back and read the article a second time. Missed the part where the homeowner provided the firearms to the miscreant to defend the residence. I made some unwarranted assumptions on the first read.

Sounds like a case of providing guns to someone not in a position to use them responsibly.


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This wasn't Russian roulette.

"When the six-shot revolver was examined, there were five live rounds in the cylinder and one spent cartridge casing."

ETA: oops I guess I should have finished reading the article before posting this. Apparently he put the rounds back in.

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This wasn't Russian roulette.

"When the six-shot revolver was examined, there were five live rounds in the cylinder and one spent cartridge casing."

ETA: oops I guess I should have finished reading the article before posting this. Apparently he put the rounds back in.

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I may have done the same thing


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Guntrader wrote:
But never heard of them shooting anyone.


Well, then, this is a first for you.

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