ATF RAID - Update: CAUGHT ON CAMERA!

[Dave Workman]

Ares Armor operating; store cameras caught first moments of raid

Ares Armor store security cameras caught the first moments of a raid by agents with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Saturday, and in an interview this morning with Examiner and The Gun Mag.com, Ares CEO Dimitrios Karras said the company is up and running, and has already replaced computers seized during the raid.

http://www.examiner.com/article/ares-ar ... urday-raid

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Original Post below:

Calif. gun shop fights ATF over customer’s names

A Southern California gun shop operator has obtained a temporary restraining order in U.S. District Court against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives over an effort by ATF agents to obtain a list of their customers, and the agency has until Friday to file an opposition to that court motion.

http://www.examiner.com/article/califor ... b_articles

UPDATE: SEE BELOW

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[Massivedesign]

I almost but the bullet on some of those EP's a few weeks ago, but by the next AM, I had forgotten. Whoa!

[FattyKrack]

Nutnfancy did a video recently on these guys down @ Ares Armor. Seem like a good group of guys. They're located in a burb called National City, and the damn city council is trying to basically shut them down because of a large "black rifle" sign. Quite American.
CTA: City Threatens Tactical Store with Jail Time…: http://youtu.be/RzBkcUZnm-w

[oldkim]

Damn, I would hate to be one of "those" that ordered some of those...

Okay I know someone that is on the "customer list" and soon will be talking to the ATF...

Spoiler: show

Well I hope not anyways...

[Dave Workman]

Allegations fly in California gun parts case

A federal district court judge in California put a proverbial foot down yesterday in a case between a gun parts supply company and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives…

http://www.examiner.com/article/accusat ... parts-case

[dusty]

http://weaselzippers.us/179529-breaking ... rom-judge/

[Lew]

http://weaselzippers.us/179529-breaking ... rom-judge/

Hmmmmmmmm...wonder who made that call?

[deadshot2]

IF I were to buy one of these 80 percenters, I utilize the anonymity that private mailboxes provide. For $140 per year one can rent a mailbox in just about any city in the country to receive any shipment they want kept anonymous.

If the operator won't rent without Photo ID, on to the next. Last one I rented for a small business I owned was a totally anonymous operation. Only "Picture ID" I needed was the kind that had a Dead President's face on it (or Ben Franklin's).

Want to be even more anonymous? Send a homeless guy in to pick up any package and bring it to you in a public parking lot.

That's how much I trust the ATF over the 80% Receivers. Today legal, tomorrow a ticket to a Federal Pen.

[Dave Workman]

IF I were to buy one of these 80 percenters, I utilize the anonymity that private mailboxes provide. For $140 per year one can rent a mailbox in just about any city in the country to receive any shipment they want kept anonymous.

If the operator won't rent without Photo ID, on to the next. Last one I rented for a small business I owned was a totally anonymous operation. Only "Picture ID" I needed was the kind that had a Dead President's face on it (or Ben Franklin's).

Want to be even more anonymous? Send a homeless guy in to pick up any package and bring it to you in a public parking lot.

That's how much I trust the ATF over the 80% Receivers. Today legal, tomorrow a ticket to a Federal Pen.

Well, that may and may not work.

I'm not sure that's the way I'd want do do things. Legal or not, it has the air of being in the gray area.

DON'T FORGET TO READ MY UPDATE IN THE FIRST POST, ABOVE!!!!!!!!! CAUGHT ON CAMERA...

[General Nonsense]

It's an interesting claim that they are completed lowers and then filled in with another plastic. That seems to be what this whole investigation hinges on.

I am sure there are much faster, easier, and cheaper ways for that to be verified rather that raiding the locations.

[Mr. Q]

It's more of a statement posture than anything imho

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