Thu Jun 21, 2018 9:21 am
deadshot2 wrote:Regarding a gun/ammo tax, wouldn't safety programs and education benefit EVERYONE? Why are only gun owners targeted when it comes to raising money to support these efforts.
BTW, gun and ammo purchases are already taxed at several levels from Federal Excise tax on down through State and Local Sales taxes, and lastly the B&O tax paid by the dealer who makes the sale to the consumer. What's happening with all THAT money.
CPL holders pay into a "Range Fund". How many new ranges has the state developed with that money or has it been siphoned off for other social programs?
Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:06 pm
Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:19 pm
jukk0u wrote:Another thing that has come to my attention is that there are State Congress seats coming up for election.
The Mayor of Kirkland is vying for a seat representing the 48th district. My, my. Now I see why she has been proactive in the social justice activism.
So, at the end of the town hall meeting, acknowledging, it would seem, how many of us pro 2A voters were in the audience, she made a big show of saying how she grew up on a farm... and when she moved back there and was in residence, as a woman alone, she thought it prudent to have her daddy's shotgun with her for defense. And how she can shoot trap and cook elk liver.... and wants to find "answers" that respect our rights...
Come to find out, she is hoping to win a seat so she can work to make a change to the state of REGULATION around guns.
From the Kirkland Reporter (6/22, page 2):
"We should require safe storage we should require INSURANCE..." (emphasis, mine) "... if you [sic] car its [sic] a dangerous object, you can do damage with your vehicle, you should have insurance on how you conduct yourself with your car", Walen said. "We should require that for firearms."
So, she wants you to have insurance on your 2A Right for protection. I'm certain it will be "affordable" (cough, cough).
Another bit of taxation that will put gun ownership out of the reach of the poor or lower middle class.
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:26 pm
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:45 pm
jukk0u wrote:BUMP
Get ready, get set.... 6:30 meet'n.
Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:27 pm
Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:33 pm
jukk0u wrote:Went to the meeting. Six other gun owners. Two non-citizens. One from Denmark (The Greatest, Happiest country on the planet with the bestest ideas on Government and gun ownership, you know...cuz Europe), the other from some place that isn't really a country (Canada)
A bunch of puffery really. Focus was "what can the CITY do to prevent violent crime and mass shootings through responsible gun ownership"?
Really? Responsible gun owners juxtaposed with violent crime and mass shootings....
And how many $$ does a city have to invest, and in what does it have authority to do? Not a whole fuck of a lot.
So we gave them a bunch of talking points they could use to spout at the anti's and say "See? We're doing "something". We also gave them a list of things to NOT do: No new taxes on gun owners. Don't go out of your way to stigmatize gun ownership.
Next up: A "Kirkland Talks" focus group discussion with a mixed group; Pro 2A'ers and Anti-gunners. Now THAT should be fun.
So, it was a good group. Even with me being an ass and there being some philosophical differences discussed, it was illuminating.
Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:40 pm
MyNameIs940 wrote:jukk0u wrote:Went to the meeting. Six other gun owners. Two non-citizens. One from Denmark (The Greatest, Happiest country on the planet with the bestest ideas on Government and gun ownership, you know...cuz Europe), the other from some place that isn't really a country (Canada)
A bunch of puffery really. Focus was "what can the CITY do to prevent violent crime and mass shootings through responsible gun ownership"?
Really? Responsible gun owners juxtaposed with violent crime and mass shootings....
And how many $$ does a city have to invest, and in what does it have authority to do? Not a whole fuck of a lot.
So we gave them a bunch of talking points they could use to spout at the anti's and say "See? We're doing "something". We also gave them a list of things to NOT do: No new taxes on gun owners. Don't go out of your way to stigmatize gun ownership.
Next up: A "Kirkland Talks" focus group discussion with a mixed group; Pro 2A'ers and Anti-gunners. Now THAT should be fun.
So, it was a good group. Even with me being an ass and there being some philosophical differences discussed, it was illuminating.
Also my pet peeve is people that continually try to talk over everyone else......
Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:43 pm
jukk0u wrote:MyNameIs940 wrote:jukk0u wrote:Went to the meeting. Six other gun owners. Two non-citizens. One from Denmark (The Greatest, Happiest country on the planet with the bestest ideas on Government and gun ownership, you know...cuz Europe), the other from some place that isn't really a country (Canada)
A bunch of puffery really. Focus was "what can the CITY do to prevent violent crime and mass shootings through responsible gun ownership"?
Really? Responsible gun owners juxtaposed with violent crime and mass shootings....
And how many $$ does a city have to invest, and in what does it have authority to do? Not a whole fuck of a lot.
So we gave them a bunch of talking points they could use to spout at the anti's and say "See? We're doing "something". We also gave them a list of things to NOT do: No new taxes on gun owners. Don't go out of your way to stigmatize gun ownership.
Next up: A "Kirkland Talks" focus group discussion with a mixed group; Pro 2A'ers and Anti-gunners. Now THAT should be fun.
So, it was a good group. Even with me being an ass and there being some philosophical differences discussed, it was illuminating.
Also my pet peeve is people that continually try to talk over everyone else......
Yeah, me too....Hey! Wait a minute!!!!
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:31 am
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:38 am
MadPick wrote:P.S. Canada didn’t burn the White House. The British did.
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:49 am
MyNameIs940 wrote:MadPick wrote:P.S. Canada didn’t burn the White House. The British did.
Canada wasn’t a country at the time so yes they were under British rule and French rule but they were a colony that ended up turning into Canada. :P
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:05 am
Massivedesign wrote:MyNameIs940 wrote:MadPick wrote:P.S. Canada didn’t burn the White House. The British did.
Canada wasn’t a country at the time so yes they were under British rule and French rule but they were a colony that ended up turning into Canada. :P
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The US owned part of (what is now) Canada with the Louisiana Purchase ... That means we burnt our OWN house down!
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:20 am
Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:52 am