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 Winchester 244 
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Fellow Reloaders,

Does anyone know where to purchase any Winchester 244 locally (anywhere between Olympia and Bellevue)? I'm very interested in giving this powder a test spin, particularly for my 9mm and 40S&W loads. I'd prefer to support a local business rather than the World Wide Web (plus fork over HAZMAT fees & shipping). If any of you WaGunners happen to have a pound or so for sale, PM me.

I'm also open to suggestions regarding other powders that burn comparably to 244, other than HP-38/W231 (my current powders of choice) and CFE Pistol. I reload coated bullets most of the time (Blue Bullets), so I shy away from fast burning powders ( Titegroup :thumbsdown: ) Thanks in advance.


Sat May 02, 2020 5:57 pm
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Awe hell, I just bought a few pounds from Grafs. I'll report on it as I develop loads. Hopefully it will be beneficial to the community.


Tue May 05, 2020 3:06 pm
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Powder has arrived! I'm going to work up a few loads in 9mm/40 S&W and see how it goes.


Thu May 14, 2020 6:09 pm
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I had never heard of it until you posted. It certainly sounds like good stuff, at least according to Winchester.

Looking forward to the report!

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Thu May 14, 2020 6:43 pm
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Finally got around to loading some rounds utilizing the this Winchester 244. Attempted to get some chrono data, but my ProChrono DLX didn't like the indoor range. I will get to an outdoor range by Monday to try again and provide velocities.

I developed loads in 40 S&W for my Canik P120 using once fired Federal and Winchester brass, RMR 180 grain plated bullets, and powder drops of 4.4, 4.6, 4.8, 5.0, & 5.2 grains. Case Overall Length at 1.105 to reliable feed in the P120. Hodgdon's Reloading suggests a 4.8-5.3 grain range, with a C.O.L of 1.125. This powder meters exceptionally well. I fired 25 rounds of each load. At 15 yards from a standing position, the 4.4-4.8 loads grouped well and were on par with HP-38 and Winchester 231 loads I have developed in the past. Very manageable recoil and cycled the gun fast for follow-up shots. The 5.0 & 5.2 opened up just a tad, and there was more "felt" recoil, but still less than a box of factory produce plinking rounds. Clean burning and no pressure signs throughout all of the tested powder drops. The upper drops did scorch the case a bit, similar to what Titegroup does to cases. Did I mention this stuff burns clean? Like I don't have to clean my gun tonight clean.

Hope you guys find this post useful and I'll provide more data soon.


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Sounds like a win. thumbsup

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MadPick wrote:
I had never heard of it until you posted. It certainly sounds like good stuff, at least according to Winchester............


What rock have you been hiding under?

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