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 Did I screw up? (brass to hot) 
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I finally bit the bullet and got a wet tumbler. Tumbled 100 rounds of .45 ACP and put them in my toaster oven to dry. The pan I put them in didn't allow the door to close fully, but I figured it would let the moisture out. Came back an hour later and my once shiny brass was now discolored due to heat. I put the timer on for 30-40 minutes and the brass was still hot to touch. Did I ruin this brass?


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no, you may have annealed it slightly, but ruin no....

one question: What's the hurry? I clean my brass and let it dry for several days, then I sort it and put it away so when I go to reload I have a supply ready to go

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Your brass may look fugly but it is NOT ruined.
As Casey mentions, letting brass sit for several days works if you have the space available. I have my “ROOM” heated in winter (58-62*) and I let it dry in there for a few days. Of course I clean 500-1000 cases per batch so I need a 2’x4’ table to spread it out on, my toaster oven is a hassle with so much brass.
In the case that I have a smaller batch I will spread them out in a large pan that fits perfectly in my toaster oven but I always turn the heat down to 200° for an hour or hour and a half and it works perfect no discoloration at all.
Good luck on your next batch. :wink05:

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I wouldn't be so quick to say that you didn't ruin it.

Any idea what temp the toaster oven was at?

You don't want to heat the brass up too much, or it gets soft. You might try just pinching a case with your fingers to see if it deforms . . . not a scientific test for sure, but if it collapses under finger pressure then I'd say it's definitely no good.

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Selling my nephew a 1911. Told him I would supply the stuff for 100 rounds, if he loaded it. We're going to load it tonight. No deformation with as pressure as I could! Whew!! Thanks guys!


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For the record, based on what we know now, I'm going to vote against loading that brass.

For $10 worth of brass, it's just not worth the risk.

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Insufficient information.

What TEMPERATURE was the toaster oven? I doubt it was 600°F+.

Grain structure does change a bit starting after 500°F. I doubt it was 500°F+

BUT I will say even if annealed, .45ACP is NOT a high pressure round.

Stabbing in dark.......toaster was 350°F.

Meh, I have zero worries here.

BUT find a used food dehydrator. I found a brand new unit at a garage sale. $3. Holds lots o'brass. Pretty quick. And brass is golden shiny.

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The brass was hot enough to sizzle water. I got a dehydrator! WOO-HOO! Finally a use for it!


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I got a dehydrator!


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vic_b wrote:
I finally bit the bullet and got a wet tumbler. Tumbled 100 rounds of .45 ACP and put them in my toaster oven to dry. The pan I put them in didn't allow the door to close fully, but I figured it would let the moisture out. Came back an hour later and my once shiny brass was now discolored due to heat. I put the timer on for 30-40 minutes and the brass was still hot to touch. Did I ruin this brass?


Discolored due to heat? I seriously doubt it; freshly cleaned brass should barely discolor due to overheating at around 750 degrees and your oven probably doesn't get that hot.

Discolored due to reactions from minerals or whatever in the water is more likely; mine does that every time if I oven dry it. It's nothing to worry about.


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Pablo wrote:
BUT find a used food dehydrator. I found a brand new unit at a garage sale. $3. Holds lots o'brass. Pretty quick. And brass is golden shiny.

Check your local Goodwill store. Picked up a couple of em there for low $$.


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The military runs brass through a "popper" prior to bulk sales for scraping or recycling. It's an oven of sorts that heats it all to a temp that will explode all unfired rounds and primers that may be in the batch. I don't know the temp they use but the brass is non reloadable afterwards and if you've got man hands you can deform it squeezing by hand.

I'd just scrap bucket it. 45 is cheap and common and not worth the possible injuries. It's 100 rds man, you are tossing out $5 worth of brass.

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harleyjasondavidson wrote:
The military runs brass through a "popper" prior to bulk sales for scraping or recycling. It's an oven of sorts that heats it all to a temp that will explode all unfired rounds and primers that may be in the batch. I don't know the temp they use but the brass is non reloadable afterwards and if you've got man hands you can deform it squeezing by hand.

I'd just scrap bucket it. 45 is cheap and common and not worth the possible injuries. It's 100 rds man, you are tossing out $5 worth of brass.


Regardless whether it's $5 or $500, understanding the actual temps needed to damage brass and comparing that to what your oven will do go a long way in figuring this stuff out. It's fine. Funny to watch people freak out over water staining because they think color = heat damage. Most of y'all jumped to conclusions and steered the whole thread wrong.

We're not talking about blueprinting Ferrari motors here; this isn't that complicated. I really think that if someone can't connect the dots between needing at least 750* F to start annealing brass, and most ovens topping out around 600*F at the MAX, they really shouldn't be reloading in the first place because a lot of other details are more complex than this.


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Exactly Yondering. I would not worry about that brass at all. I dry mine in an old skillet on a burner set on low.


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That popper will get everything really, really hot! My little oven is nowhere near that hot.


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