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Well folks I'm going to invest in a better swaging tool because the RCBS Press mounted swagger is a PITA.
I've narrowed it down to a Dillon or RCBS. I know many are partial to the big blue but would like to hear about the RCBS model.
Thanks in advance. :thumbsup2:

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Dillon is the benchmark for primer pocket swaggers.

No experience with the RCBS bench mount model.

When I bought a swagger, I simply bought the best one IMO.... :bigsmile:

I actually bought 2 Dillons . One is setup for small primer and one for large primers.

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Thanks Nitro, I've used the super swager once, maybe it was worn out because I had some that crunched primers and I didn't rush the process.
Just looking for variety to make my decision (buy once cry once).

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Thanks Nitro, I've used the super swager once, maybe it was worn out because I had some that crunched primers and I didn't rush the process.
Just looking for variety to make my decision (buy once cry once).


I 100% understand.
I wish I could offer you a first hand comparison but I can't.

Let us know which way you go.

As a side note, my Dillons have NEVER caused any issues when properly set up.

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You are welcome to take my Dillon for a test drive before you commit. It’s setup right.

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Nitro_Guns wrote:
As a side note, my Dillons have NEVER caused any issues when properly set up.


Agreed. Since I've had the Dillon 600 Super Swage, I've bought a couple of other things to try, to see if they were easier. They weren't.

Two things I've learned with the Dillon:

1) Get a primer pocket gauge and use it. Adjust the Dillon to remove the crimp, but no more. Don't use the "if a little swage is good, more must be better" approach that I have used for many years. I have a thread to provide that it isn't.

2) I bought these for .223 and .308. They aren't necessary, but I've found them to be helpful: https://inlinefabrication.com/collectio ... perswage-1

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mcyclonegt wrote:
You are welcome to take my Dillon for a test drive before you commit. It’s setup right.


I may take you up on that offer. :bigsmile:

Thanks for the comments guys, I’ll report back with my choice when I make it. :thumbsup2:

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MadPick wrote:
Nitro_Guns wrote:
As a side note, my Dillons have NEVER caused any issues when properly set up.


Agreed. Since I've had the Dillon 600 Super Swage, I've bought a couple of other things to try, to see if they were easier. They weren't.

Two things I've learned with the Dillon:

1) Get a primer pocket gauge and use it. Adjust the Dillon to remove the crimp, but no more. Don't use the "if a little swage is good, more must be better" approach that I have used for many years. I have a thread to provide that it isn't.

2) I bought these for .223 and .308. They aren't necessary, but I've found them to be helpful: https://inlinefabrication.com/collectio ... perswage-1


Thanks for the info and link Steve. :wagwoot:

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I have the Dillion 600 Super swager. I used the press swager for all of a month and hated it. Dillion 600 is well worth it.


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So what did you get Caveman?

I have two or three of the press RCBS staggers, garbage in my opinion.

I bought one new Dillon swagger and two used Dillon staggers from Mark down in Olympia.
I have one set up for 223, one set up for 308 and a extra one just because that's the way I do things.
I always like to have extra on all of my reloading equipment.
I just bought a extra - extra set of 223 RCBS dies.
I probably have three extra sets of 223 dies already, but now I have another extra set.
I run two single stage Hornaday Lock n Load presses, have an extra one of those as well along with three or four RCBS Rockchucker presses along with lots of extra primers & powder.


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Well Patrick, I made a major decision regarding my reloading components. You see, I had too damn many .223/5.56 cases, is that even fathomable? I opted to borrow a Dillon 600 from @mycyclonegt here and decided to swage 3000 LC cases and sell the remaining 4000. Plus I’m downsizing for the upcoming move next year or two.
The 600 did a fantastic job for me and if I decide to do more then I’ll just borrow another as I doubt I’ll need to purchase one.

Hoping to touch bases with you and Mason on the 1st!!! :bigsmile:

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Dillon, and automate it with a rubber band. 1,000 pieces goes by pretty quick. Set up a cardboard box or rubbermaid bin to catch the swaged brass. The video below is with 20 Tactical brass; the larger 223 and up go a little faster to fit them on the swaging rod.

Also, just a tip on the Dillon - those Inline Fabrication pieces are a nice addition, but I just drilled and tapped mine for a set screw on either side to do the same thing. Both methods work well and are cheap enough.

https://i.imgur.com/i1V5yCX.mp4 (anyone know how to get this to play right in the message?)

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Indeed, that’s how I set it up, fun fun fun… :thumbsup2:[

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Where are you planning on moving to?


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Have been looking at the hills in Oklahoma, southern Missouri and northern Arkansas. Lots of nice places to live like a king after I sell this place. :thumbsup2:

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