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Author:  thefuryoffire [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:22 am ]
Post subject:  Dun goofed

Pics to come tonight, so you can laugh at my misfortune.

I was loading up all my .380 bullets because, well, because.

I'm chuggin' along on my lee classic turret and I notice, right about my 250th round, that the bullet seated really rather far in.

Then I look in my bucket where I've been tossing completed rounds.

They've been getting progressively shorter. WTF.

Turns out the bullet seating die's length nut slipped, allowing the post to twist as the turret spun.

Only about 50 were affected, but that's still a lot of time with an inertia bullet puller. Guess I'm wearing ears tonight as I WHAP them out.

@!$!@$#!@%!@#@!#!.

Author:  Classic [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

Been there done that but I had 250 to take apart.... The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!

Author:  thefuryoffire [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:29 am ]
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Classic wrote:
Been there done that but I had 250 to take apart.... The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!


The sad part is, this is a new length setting for me so I wasn't sure what they should look like. The first 200 were in spec to length (and pass plunk and ejection tests) but those last 50... goddamn it.

Author:  MadPick [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

Classic wrote:
The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!


:plusone:

Consider getting a collet puller. They are a LOT easier to use if you have more than a few to do.

Author:  oldkim [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

MadPick wrote:
Classic wrote:
The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!


:plusone:

Consider getting a collet puller. They are a LOT easier to use if you have more than a few to do.


First hand experience... :bigsmile:

Author:  MadPick [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

I scoff at pulling bullets by the hundreds. I specialize in THOUSANDS.


:bigsmile:

Author:  thefuryoffire [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

MadPick wrote:
I scoff at pulling bullets by the hundreds. I specialize in THOUSANDS.


:bigsmile:


Speaking of pulled bullets, if you don't like those .40 American Reloading pulls, I'll take 'em off your hands... lulz

Author:  MadPick [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

thefuryoffire wrote:
MadPick wrote:
I scoff at pulling bullets by the hundreds. I specialize in THOUSANDS.


:bigsmile:


Speaking of pulled bullets, if you don't like those .40 American Reloading pulls, I'll take 'em off your hands... lulz


Too late. Already loaded. thumbsup

Author:  thefuryoffire [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

MadPick wrote:
thefuryoffire wrote:
MadPick wrote:
I scoff at pulling bullets by the hundreds. I specialize in THOUSANDS.


:bigsmile:


Speaking of pulled bullets, if you don't like those .40 American Reloading pulls, I'll take 'em off your hands... lulz


Too late. Already loaded. thumbsup


Same here. They work great!

Author:  deadshot2 [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

MadPick wrote:
Classic wrote:
The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!


:plusone:

Consider getting a collet puller. They are a LOT easier to use if you have more than a few to do.


Collet pullers are easier and for my money the Hornady "lever type" is the best. Unfortuantely they can be a pain in the ass on small pistol rounds like the .380, especially if the bullet is seated too far into the case. Collet pullers REQUIRE some bearing surface exposed as they dont' grip at all on curved noses.


Moving forward it's always a good practice, when loading lots of rounds, to have check intervals. When starting a run stop after 10-15 completed rounds and check measurements. Re-weigh charges if using a powder measure/dispenser. Check ALL lock nuts and screws. Then repeat the checks at whatever interval you feel comfy with like every 50-100. This sure cuts down the number of rounds you will need to re-work.


FWIW, I found that my inertial bullet pullers worked better when I smacked them on a solid metal surface instead of wood. I put a layer of Duct Take on a piece of 1/2" steel plate. Bullets came loose in one good smack, never more than two. When beating on my wooden bench it sometimes took several more smacks as the wood had some give (even though it was 2X6 covered by 1/2" glued down plywood).

Author:  thefuryoffire [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

deadshot2 wrote:
MadPick wrote:
Classic wrote:
The important part was you caught it and didn't mess up you or your gun!


:plusone:

Consider getting a collet puller. They are a LOT easier to use if you have more than a few to do.


Collet pullers are easier and for my money the Hornady "lever type" is the best. Unfortuantely they can be a pain in the ass on small pistol rounds like the .380, especially if the bullet is seated too far into the case. Collet pullers REQUIRE some bearing surface exposed as they dont' grip at all on curved noses.


Moving forward it's always a good practice, when loading lots of rounds, to have check intervals. When starting a run stop after 10-15 completed rounds and check measurements. Re-weigh charges if using a powder measure/dispenser. Check ALL lock nuts and screws. Then repeat the checks at whatever interval you feel comfy with like every 50-100. This sure cuts down the number of rounds you will need to re-work.


FWIW, I found that my inertial bullet pullers worked better when I smacked them on a solid metal surface instead of wood. I put a layer of Duct Take on a piece of 1/2" steel plate. Bullets came loose in one good smack, never more than two. When beating on my wooden bench it sometimes took several more smacks as the wood had some give (even though it was 2X6 covered by 1/2" glued down plywood).


Yeah. I caught this one at my 50-interval check. Happened right at the start of the last.

I have a small vice with an anvil spot that's perfect for the inertial bullet puller, and about 1/2 of these don't have enough space for the collet puller so I'll just be stuck with it. >.<

Author:  rodell [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

I've gotten in the habit of using a case gage for my checks, too. That way I'm sure they will chamber. I do every one on small round counts (hunting) and sample on large ones.

Author:  thefuryoffire [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

What do you all think of this?

https://www.amazon.com/Lyman-Products-H ... case+gauge

Author:  Big dangle [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

I've looked at those before, seem good but the plunk test in a barrel or cylinder every few rounds.

Author:  Jammer Six [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Dun goofed

Show me a man who has never pulled bullets, and I'll show you a man who isn't careful enough to reload.

Pulling bullets means you caught your own mistake. It's a good thing!

:cheers2:

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