Wed May 29, 2019 12:30 pm
Wed May 29, 2019 12:54 pm
PMB wrote:Bugging in is always the preferred first choice, no?
If bugging in becomes too dangerous for whatever reason, then we bug out.
We practice campcraft pretty much everyday with The Balrog. A wide variety of skills is our goal.
Competent Man : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competent_man
“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly.
Specialization is for insects.”
~ Robert Heinlein
Wed May 29, 2019 3:53 pm
hkcavalier wrote:The problem is the millions of city dwellers that simply cannot "bug in" for very long.
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:46 am
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:57 pm
golddigger14s wrote:Free Boer wrote:golddigger14s wrote:I totally agree. Even if my house collapses all my stuff is still in there. I can't fit all my belongings in my car. Even if I could where would I go? The roads will be a mess in a matter of minutes. Four wheel drive will not get you any farther.
Only take what you need and can use, a dual-sport type bike such as a older BMW Dakar or the like would get you to your secondary locale if fuel holds out. Next best option is a horse or mule. Horses are faster afoot, mules are much more stout and sure footed cross country.
Okay, why would I leave everything that I worked so hard to acquire? Where would I go? "Bugging Out" makes no sense to me. I have a GHK (Get Home Kit) in my car. I work on a military base and would feel more comfortable/safe at home.
BTW would a BMW Dakar cross the Nisqually River (Or any other river)? Can it carry all my guns, gallons of water, a month of food, thousands of rounds of ammo, etc...?
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:38 pm
hkcavalier wrote:NWGunner wrote:Couldn't view the vids on this device, but...
I've been to a lot of prepper meetings, and it always cracks me up that people will head out & "live off the land"...
So, what, there's 30 million deer, and nearly 330 million people...
If even if just 200,000 people from the metro area from Olympia to Everett head out, and start shooting, how many deer, or anything, will be anywhere near you when they're done fumbling around & shooting?
And if you nail one, how many people are watching your back while you gut it?
Movies & books are great, but this is similar to every guy walking out of a Jason Bourne or martial arts movie...everyone thinks they're a badass....
If you don't have a compound with friends that you can reach, bug-in & keep a low profile...
I'm there with ya. Reminds me of a part of my book where one of the characters (a prepper) goes off on that mentality.
It was the height of absurdity to believe that Joe Sixpack, his wife, and 2.5 kids could leave the city, plop down a trailer in a one of those remote parts of the country, and just start living off the land. People that pushed pencils all day for La living, made regular visits to a fast food drive-thru, and depended on all the conveniences that a modern consumerist culture could provide would be dead within a month during an average Eastern Montana or Wyoming winter. At least in Western Washington the climate was far milder and the wild food was a lot more accessible.
Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:40 pm
Selador wrote:hkcavalier wrote:The problem is the millions of city dwellers that simply cannot "bug in" for very long.
It would only be about 4 days before most of them would become dinner.
Sun Jul 07, 2019 10:08 am
Free Boer wrote: If bugging in, have a plan to escape the home in case of impending siege. If you fire upon brigands, they'll just burn you out. .