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A) Only has a couple channels, and that's to communicate with family or friends 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
B) A, Plus local stuff in your county 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
C) A and B plus stuff in your surrounding counties 14%  14%  [ 5 ]
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Take some free online tests. When you can get 90%ish consistently, you'll be golden to take the real test without issue.


it is frustrating. i can get the test Q&A down but i still don't know what the hell most of it is talking about... all the terminology and shit. it's just confusing


It's like, physics and shit....

lol

But seriously, it is.

What parts are you having trouble with?


not having trouble per se, but i feel like i have to know what i'm looking at
for example this question:
What is component 4 in figure T2?
A.
Double-pole switch
B.
Transformer
C.
Potentiometer
D.
Variable inductor

without actually studying i have no idea wtf i'm looking at. yeah, i can poke at it and memorize the question but like, what is the rest of the diagram components are called, what is the diagram itself, etc?

it is physics and shit...



Look up what each of those things does.

When you know what each of them does, the picture will make perfect sense.

You're electricity, trying to flow through the diagram, each piece represents a change in state, once you know what each piece does, the diagrams will make sense.. So, what is a sharp squiggly line? Seems like it would slow things down.... It's a resistor....

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btw, got my radios in today. both radios are in great shape, the lot actually came with 3 batteries, 2 of them are DOA however.... 1 is dead dead, the other has some charge but battery icon is flashing on the screen and when i put it in the charger both red and green lights flash consistently, indicating battery fault (according to the charger's manual) and it's not taking charge as well...
contacting the seller to see wtf they want to do about replacing these, as that was not mentioned anywhere in the auction...


You can zap the batteries with 12v to wake them up... But that's only a temp fix. Did you get an Impress charger or std charger?


they're NTN7209A, big fat ones. i don't know if it's the correct charger, it says it's output is 9.8V but batteries say they are 7.5V, won't that ruin them?

and what model replacement battery is best?


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btw, got my radios in today. both radios are in great shape, the lot actually came with 3 batteries, 2 of them are DOA however.... 1 is dead dead, the other has some charge but battery icon is flashing on the screen and when i put it in the charger both red and green lights flash consistently, indicating battery fault (according to the charger's manual) and it's not taking charge as well...
contacting the seller to see wtf they want to do about replacing these, as that was not mentioned anywhere in the auction...


You can zap the batteries with 12v to wake them up... But that's only a temp fix. Did you get an Impress charger or std charger?


they're NTN7209A, big fat ones. i don't know if it's the correct charger, it says it's output is 9.8V but batteries say they are 7.5V, won't that ruin them?

and what model replacement battery is best?


That's the standard non-Impress charger. It will work just won't do fancy stuff like conditioning.

Battery is dependent on budget. Gimme a min to link some options

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TechnoWeenie wrote:
Look up what each of those things does.

When you know what each of them does, the picture will make perfect sense.

You're electricity, trying to flow through the diagram, each piece represents a change in state, once you know what each piece does, the diagrams will make sense.. So, what is a sharp squiggly line? Seems like it would slow things down.... It's a resistor....


that's what i'm saying, i have to study here, it's not just all that simple... and who's got the time to study???
i'll just have to buy one of them there man-U-all's i guess, to keep on hand if i want to look up at what time of the day FCC allows non-licensee to operate my station to contact a foreign government to relay third party information... sheesh... :ROFLMAO:


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To steal an idea, you could just declare your AO an autonomous zone, and you'd be exempt.

We'll sign a foreign agreement with you on behalf of the USA.

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movingviolation wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
Look up what each of those things does.

When you know what each of them does, the picture will make perfect sense.

You're electricity, trying to flow through the diagram, each piece represents a change in state, once you know what each piece does, the diagrams will make sense.. So, what is a sharp squiggly line? Seems like it would slow things down.... It's a resistor....


that's what i'm saying, i have to study here, it's not just all that simple... and who's got the time to study???
i'll just have to buy one of them there man-U-all's i guess, to keep on hand if i want to look up at what time of the day FCC allows non-licensee to operate my station to contact a foreign government to relay third party information... sheesh... :ROFLMAO:


A diode blocks electricity in one direction.. Which one looks like it can only flow one way? What about a diode that emits light?

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tried connecting the dead batteries to my car jump starter pack, not sure for how long i was supposed to hold it, but i did for only a couple of minutes - no change, both are still dead


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tried connecting the dead batteries to my car jump starter pack, not sure for how long i was supposed to hold it, but i did for only a couple of minutes - no change, both are still dead


Jesus christ.

Couple of seconds... not minutes...

Did you get the polarity right? lol

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tried connecting the dead batteries to my car jump starter pack, not sure for how long i was supposed to hold it, but i did for only a couple of minutes - no change, both are still dead


Jesus christ.

Couple of seconds... not minutes...

Did you get the polarity right? lol


it was more for like 30 seconds... not sure about polarity, + on the right - on the left? i saw a bit of sparks when connecting the almost dead battery, no action on the dead dead one


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tried connecting the dead batteries to my car jump starter pack, not sure for how long i was supposed to hold it, but i did for only a couple of minutes - no change, both are still dead


Jesus christ.

Couple of seconds... not minutes...

Did you get the polarity right? lol


it was more for like 30 seconds... not sure about polarity, + on the right - on the left? i saw a bit of sparks when connecting the almost dead battery, no action on the dead dead one


Just like jumping a car batt. + to +, - to -.... using the inside contacts that connect to radio, not rear contacts.

Should have said something if you couldn't have figured it out, no shame in asking for clarification, we all started somewhere..... Even I was a dumbass who connected a rechargeable battery directly to 120v mains using paper clips..lololol. That was fun....

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movingviolation wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
movingviolation wrote:
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Take some free online tests. When you can get 90%ish consistently, you'll be golden to take the real test without issue.


it is frustrating. i can get the test Q&A down but i still don't know what the hell most of it is talking about... all the terminology and shit. it's just confusing


It's like, physics and shit....

lol

But seriously, it is.

What parts are you having trouble with?


not having trouble per se, but i feel like i have to know what i'm looking at
for example this question:
What is component 4 in figure T2?
A.
Double-pole switch
B.
Transformer
C.
Potentiometer
D.
Variable inductor

without actually studying i have no idea wtf i'm looking at. yeah, i can poke at it and memorize the question but like, what is the rest of the diagram components are called, what is the diagram itself, etc?

it is physics and shit...



I hope this helps.


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movingviolation wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
movingviolation wrote:
TechnoWeenie wrote:
Take some free online tests. When you can get 90%ish consistently, you'll be golden to take the real test without issue.


it is frustrating. i can get the test Q&A down but i still don't know what the hell most of it is talking about... all the terminology and shit. it's just confusing


It's like, physics and shit....

lol

But seriously, it is.

What parts are you having trouble with?


not having trouble per se, but i feel like i have to know what i'm looking at
for example this question:
What is component 4 in figure T2?
A.
Double-pole switch
B.
Transformer
C.
Potentiometer
D.
Variable inductor

without actually studying i have no idea wtf i'm looking at. yeah, i can poke at it and memorize the question but like, what is the rest of the diagram components are called, what is the diagram itself, etc?

it is physics and shit...



I hope this helps.



That's just cheating :-p

Nothing wrong with just memorizing the test to get your ticket, then familiarizing yourself as you go.

If you wanna be an appliance operator, again, no shame, but the only one you're limiting is yourself.

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