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West coast exodus? Idaho bound apparently..
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Site Supporter   Location: Spokane, WA Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 997 Real Name: Curtis 
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Those I haul rates are the same as going to Spokane when I moved 18 months ago. People fleeing for good reason
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| Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:04 am |
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In Memoriam  Location: Mukilteoish Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 Posts: 11595
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I renewed my lease for a year, waiting for housing markets to drop.
And they are. NYC is down 20% Lot of people living month to month lost their jobs with the virus, more on the way. I see a lot of foreclosures coming up in the next 6-12 months. Fire Sale. Banks don't want to fuck around with property, they want money. And if you don't have enough money to cover your house payments for a year or two, the banks won't let you get in too far into the loan. Except that admiral guy on TV (New Day) That's all about loaning you money they know you can't pay back so they take your house and sell it. Remember Hamlet: Neither a borrower nor a lender be. Do not forget: stay out of debt. Think twice, and take this good advice from me: Guard that old solvency! There's just one other thing you ought to do. To thine own self be true. Giligans Island, 1966 _________________ NRA Endowment Member. How did they know my member was well endowed? |
| Sat Jul 11, 2020 6:16 am |
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Site Supporter  Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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leadcounsel wrote: From what little I've seen the natives in Idaho are less likely/willing to rollover than the natives in other now-blue states. Folks also have the benefit of hindsight and seeing what the locusts have done to CA, OR, WA, etc. With the low state populations, of under 2 million, there is a risk here. A big defense to that is important pro-gun folks. So I welcome anyone pro-gun moving here, honestly. If you're anti-gun, you aren't welcome. I've met a lot of pro-gun folks here and I really really like it... There's always a risk but Idaho has been doing terrific things. * 2014 - passed a law banning new federal gun control and not supporting it with local resources * 2018/2019/2020 - passed a host of pro-gun laws including castle doctrine and every adult (resident and non-resident) enjoys the right of Constitutional carry. * 2019 - entire state is declared pro-gun sanctuary. * Ranks second only to Arizona in 2A friendly states in the annual gun-rag polling. Other measures I'm not remembering at the moment. As for taxes, I did a thorough review and comparison on taxes. Idaho is overall on par with Washington, maybe a bit less. Graduated income tax capped at 7%, very cheap vehicle and gas taxes, 6% sales tax. So it depends on what your needs are. Overall I feel less taxed here than WA, even with the income tax. WA raped me on my home sale, which was not cool... The reality is that a state has to collect taxes in one form or another. The city of Boise is left of center and elected Democrat leaders. I think one finds that cancer in most major metro areas. However, there may be a demographic change with colleges either closing or going out of business or doing more remote learning so urban living isn't a requirement. For instance, Concordia University in Boise just went under... Universities attract liberals. Remove the former and you remove the latter to a degree... Time will tell. Unlike many major metro areas, Boise has had minimal leftist nonsense or protests. We shall see what the future holds. But I like my odds a lot better in this state than probably all or most of the former 8 states in which I've lived... And I'd far rather be in Idaho than Washington during these next decades... Laws aren't enough, they can be changed by initiative or a simple legislative majority. ID initiatives aren't subject to single subject, funding source identification or even coherent/relevant title restrictions. If you don't enshrine everything you want in the state constitution, and then make changing that constitution very difficult, Boise will fuck you soon. You pointed out the low ID population. All it would take is 5-10 years of comparable immigration that the puget sound got from the SF Bay Area to change the population and tip the state. Learn from WA. Get rid of the income tax, ban it in the state constitution and cap all other taxes in the state constitution. Explicitly ban gun taxes and all forms of any new restrictive gun laws in the state constitution. Clock is ticking. You've been warned. Ignore this and watch ID go down faster than Montana. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
| Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:54 am |
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In Memoriam  Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607 Real Name: George Bailey
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golddigger14s wrote: BTW I do still have a house in OLY. Isn't that the house that was on the news this AM that Jayboye commandeered to house Covid positive early release pedo-inmates? _________________ "Remove one freedom per generation and soon you will have no freedom and no one would have noticed."......Carl Marx "Let us Cross the river and sit in the shade of the trees" .....Stonewall Jackson T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure" |
| Sat Jul 11, 2020 8:12 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Tacoma/Puyallup Joined: Tue May 8, 2012 Posts: 4340 Real Name: Larry
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Alpine wrote: Clock is ticking. You've been warned. Ignore this and watch ID go down faster than Montana. Since when did Montana go down? I have always heard it is even more sought after escape location than ID? _________________ Talons wrote: it's too plastic, even for me. it's like old, overworked, plastic everywhere old pornwhore amounts of plastic. |
| Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:58 am |
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lamrith wrote: Alpine wrote: Clock is ticking. You've been warned. Ignore this and watch ID go down faster than Montana. Since when did Montana go down? I have always heard it is even more sought after escape location than ID? Look at their state legislature makeup, governor, national senators, etc. Libtard MT governor has been vetoing pro gun laws. https://news.ballotpedia.org/2019/05/06 ... bullock-d/ _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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Site Supporter  Location: Greater Seattle Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2014 Posts: 49
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I spent a bunch of time in northern Idaho last year and met with a wide range of people. Almost all of the refugees from the blue states that I met - even the white collar tech workers with money - are conservatives.
Boise is different to north Idaho, but I think Idaho has done a good job of discouraging woke Californians from moving there. The transgender laws are a good example. https://www.ktvb.com/article/sports/cal ... 0424af9fc5 This article implies that what I observed was correct. The people looking at Idaho are like myself, refugees of the blue virus, not the infected. https://www.boisestate.edu/bluereview/d ... nia-idaho/ Quote: The Californians who have moved to Idaho are not especially liberal as a group (22% identify as liberal), with a narrow majority identifying as conservative (54%). If anything, Californians coming to Idaho are more conservative than native Idahoans. |
| Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:54 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Mountlake Terrace, WA Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 Posts: 259
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My across the street neighbor just moved to Hayden, ID about a month or two ago. Basically was taxed out of his house and harassed on FB to the point where he decided to move. Great way to treat a Vietnam vet, a former 82nd member. But he was able to sell his little house for over asking and get a really nice house in Hayden that cost about half. He probably will live out his life there with like minded friends and not with the mindless around here. BTW the people there absolutely hate Californians.
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Site Supporter  Location: In my Cave near the Cloquallum Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 Posts: 7788 Real Name: Jim Sr.
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Two years ago I was feverishly looking and I found the perfect place but couldn’t convince the wife to pull up stakes from the grandkids here.
 It’s gone up substantially since then and now we will have to get financing and a monthly house payment again!!! _________________ "You are either with us...as Americans. Or, You are against us. There is no IN BETWEEN." ??? "We cannot negotiate with those who say, 'What's mine is mine, and what's yours is negotiable.'" JFK "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety” -Ben Franklin MadPick wrote: I don't think you beat your children enough.  |
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Site Supporter  Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8584 Real Name: Brian
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Alpine wrote: lamrith wrote: Alpine wrote: Clock is ticking. You've been warned. Ignore this and watch ID go down faster than Montana. Since when did Montana go down? I have always heard it is even more sought after escape location than ID? Look at their state legislature makeup, governor, national senators, etc. Libtard MT governor has been vetoing pro gun laws. https://news.ballotpedia.org/2019/05/06 ... bullock-d/ One governor doesnt define a state as blue. Montana is considered to be a moderately Republican state. There is a small percentage of Hispanic and African American votes. ... In the last ten presidential elections Montana has voted Republican, except in 1992. _________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson |
| Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:13 am |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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Yeah but those margins are razor thin.
In 2016 Trump only got 56%. Also, it's too late for MT to change any significant laws or alter the state constitution. They don't even have anywhere close to super majorities in the state legislature. They're basically on borrowed time and it's too late to preempt anything. As I said, MT is gone, it's just a matter of time now. Look at these numbers. https://ballotpedia.org/Montana_State_Legislature ID still has supermajorities and the governorship. They still can change their laws and lock up the state Constitution. It's the difference between 5-10 years and 100 years. And if they can score a longterm shield then we have a chance to eventually turn back the institutions that led to this: education system, economy, immigration, etc. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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Site Supporter Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8584 Real Name: Brian
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56 percent was huge considering Hillary got 32 percent.
Gianforte (R) had 118,000 votes in the Republican primary (53 % turn out) Cooney (D) has 81,000 votes in dimwitcrat primary, 55 % turn out. Both records for voter turn out in a primary for Montana. _________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson |
| Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:23 am |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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So override Bullock's veto? Oh that's right, they can't.
Change the state constitution to lock gun laws forever. Oh that's right, they can't. Majorities aren't enough. And with that tiny population it would take only a few years of concentrated CA/NY migration to fuck that state fast. WA got gun law preemption passed by the skin of their teeth a few decades ago. But it's a simple RCW that the libs will overturn with the legislature or by initiative with a bare majority if need be. And in the meantime lib judges have been gutting it. Another thing ID needs to change, their state supreme court. Right now all judges are elected in state-wide votes. Eventually they'll all become Boise liberal trial lawyers, similar to how WA's court is mostly Seattle liberals. WA Sen Mike Padden had a plan to fix that by spreading the court out into districts across WA so Seattle would never get more than 1 judge. But his bill has no change of passing the state legislature. As it is now, MT(which has the same problem), cannot change this either because the governor would veto that bill. ID could not only pass a law, they could make the change permanent in the state constitution then lock up the ability to edit the state constitution with a crazy high vote requirement. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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Site Supporter Location: The banana belt of MT Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 8584 Real Name: Brian
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Gifford Law Center gives Montana an F grade, I'm good with that.
As it stands, we have the most permissive state gun laws in the USA. I believe Idaho and AK ar right up there too. _________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me."- Hunter S. Thompson |
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Site Supporter Joined: Sat Aug 11, 2012 Posts: 7649
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WA has better carry laws than MT, and that's BS considering all the shitty gun laws we usually have.
In WA, we can carry concealed or open into most government buildings, all financial institutions and into the all-ages area of restaurants and pubs. In MT, people can't do that. Also, local cities and counties and other entities can restrict carry in certain public spaces, something WA towns and entities cannot do. _________________ If you vote for Biden you are voting to be murdered when he sends Beto to come take your "semi automatic assault weapon" (any semi auto). If you have family or friends voting for Biden show them this and ask if they are willing to vote for your murder or maybe even their own if they are gun owners or live with any. https://nypost.com/2020/03/03/joe-biden ... n-control/ Quote: “I want to make something clear, I’m going to guarantee you this is not the last you’ve seen of him (Beto),” Biden said Monday evening during a campaign rally in Dallas. “You’re (Beto) going to take care of the gun problem with me. You’re (Beto) going to be the one who leads this effort.” https://www.newsweek.com/beto-orourke-g ... ns-1465738 Quote: [Beto O'Rourke Suggests Police Would 'Visit' Homes To Implement Proposed Assault Weapons Ban] "In that case, I think that there would be a visit by law enforcement to recover that firearm... ..."If someone does not turn in an AR-15 or an AK-47, one of these weapons of war...then that weapon will be taken from them" |
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