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PAPISJEEP
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Location: lewis county Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 Posts: 1777
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16' car trailer, let my buddy borrow it n fu*ked it up, before I put the new deck on what are some good options to seal and protect the boards?
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:00 pm |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6196
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Pretty hard to beat a spray on bed liner material. Protects and gives good wet traction
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:51 pm |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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Put good heavy duty green Doug Fir on it.
DO NOT use pressure treated wood for decking. It will rust out your trailer.
Green DF or cotton wood make the best trailer decking.
If you use hardware store kiln dried wood it will suck up the mold/mildew and rot.
Most sealers will kill wood also. If it seals water/gunk OUT, then it also seals water/gunk IN. The wood needs to BREATH to last. Space the boards and OIL it with a PRESERVATIVE, not a SEALER.
Think about the 100 year old barns you see with old board n batt siding = green doug fir.
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:10 pm |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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PS, I mill TONS of trailer decking.
Doing two next week. ;)
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Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:12 pm |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20754
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Old Growth wrote: Put good heavy duty green Doug Fir on it.
DO NOT use pressure treated wood for decking. It will rust out your trailer.
Green DF or cotton wood make the best trailer decking.
If you use hardware store kiln dried wood it will suck up the mold/mildew and rot.
Most sealers will kill wood also. If it seals water/gunk OUT, then it also seals water/gunk IN. The wood needs to BREATH to last. Space the boards and OIL it with a PRESERVATIVE, not a SEALER.
Think about the 100 year old barns you see with old board n batt siding = green doug fir. Cotton Wood?? For Trailer decking? I'll take your word for it, but i never heard of Cotton Wood being good for much of anything.
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:32 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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usrifle wrote: Old Growth wrote: Put good heavy duty green Doug Fir on it.
DO NOT use pressure treated wood for decking. It will rust out your trailer.
Green DF or cotton wood make the best trailer decking.
If you use hardware store kiln dried wood it will suck up the mold/mildew and rot.
Most sealers will kill wood also. If it seals water/gunk OUT, then it also seals water/gunk IN. The wood needs to BREATH to last. Space the boards and OIL it with a PRESERVATIVE, not a SEALER.
Think about the 100 year old barns you see with old board n batt siding = green doug fir. Cotton Wood?? For Trailer decking? I'll take your word for it, but i never heard of Cotton Wood being good for much of anything. I cut a fair amount of it for decking and dumptruck sideboards. Its not a bad wood. Firewood guys give it a bad name. In lumber form it is pretty strong and lasts much longer outside than people think. Its real light when dry and strong for decking. Its kinda soft so track machines grip it and then after it rains the dents swell back out of it. As a side board it will flex further than DF. This is handy when your loader operator is an old guy with no depth perception. He wont hit your boards with the bucket, but he will curl the bucket into them when he dumps the load and flex them sideways. My buddy calls cottonwood "high mountain ash". "Ya know, cuz it leaves a high mountain of ash in yer stove".
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:53 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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usrifle wrote: Cotton Wood?? For Trailer decking? I'll take your word for it, but i never heard of Cotton Wood being good for much of anything. Quote: Cottonwood has been used for many things through the years including; shelving, framing, paneling, sub floors, crates, pallets, lowboy decks, saddles, and caskets. From here,, https://farwestforest.com/does-cottonwo ... od-lumber/
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:58 am |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20754
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Well shit, i been learned about Cotton Wood.
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:07 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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usrifle wrote: Well shit, i been learned about Cotton Wood. This is another decent read up on it. https://forestryforum.com/board/index.p ... c=105209.0Its used allot in the furniture industry for drawers and structure where it is substituted in place of an expensive wood in unseen parts. My father has been using a bunch lately building post wraps in his house. His staircase is all very fancy red alder banisters and trim and he has found with the right stain, he can make the cottonwood trim match the alders color. It takes stain very well.
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:13 am |
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mtnwkr
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Location: Port Orchard Joined: Sun Dec 23, 2012 Posts: 797
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Old Growth wrote: Most sealers will kill wood also. If it seals water/gunk OUT, then it also seals water/gunk IN. The wood needs to BREATH to last. Space the boards and OIL it with a PRESERVATIVE, not a SEALER.
Is there a preservative that you recommend?
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:03 am |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11049
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Most of the flatbed guys that redeck a trailer use red or white oak, or a mix of the two depending on where they're getting it. It's a big job to do a full 53' trailer, general consensus seems to be to buy a new trailer Apitong is another option. More expensive https://www.trailerdecking.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA2af-BRDzARIsAIVQUOceumQZOsiMYjzbdmj8d4lmusyavPwGUzyXu4ZU_Evw34tBwFMdaEcaAtnkEALw_wcB
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:16 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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Red oak is big money here on the coast. The white oak we have here is a protected species and makes bad lumber anyways. Decking from the guys in that link would cost a guy over $1000 to do a 16’ car trailer with their cheaper stuff. It would also add over 500lbs of weight. The average car trailer costs about 200-300$ to do in HD Doug fir 1.75” thick. Remember the box stores are selling HEMFIR which is hemlock, garbage for outside use and it’s priced higher than DF was at this time last year. Lumber prices have risen by 20-40% this year everywhere but here!
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:53 am |
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4814
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mtnwkr wrote: Old Growth wrote: Most sealers will kill wood also. If it seals water/gunk OUT, then it also seals water/gunk IN. The wood needs to BREATH to last. Space the boards and OIL it with a PRESERVATIVE, not a SEALER.
Is there a preservative that you recommend? Any oil based or one of those wood preservative type. Honestly my trailer has nothing on it but the oil and hydraulic fluid that gets spilled on it,
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 10:56 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6196
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I bought a fair amount of lumber from Old Growth. It was very good stuff
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Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:21 pm |
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TINCANBANDIT
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Location: Mohave Valley Arizona Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 13371
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I learnt something new today.....time to call it quits
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