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survivor
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Location: Kent Joined: Wed Mar 13, 2013 Posts: 1659
Real Name: Andy
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This is just down right sad. I can not even begin to imagine your frustration. But I thank you for showing this guys lack of skill. I believe a co-workers dad took in a rifle to have it re barreled by this very same guy. And he had very simalar results.
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:21 pm |
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3584ELK
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Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253
Real Name: Mark
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I hope I can see this objectively, despite the sad outcome. On one hand, Mr. Palazzo was a great gunsmith and long range competitor, in his younger days. In the past year he has broken his hip in a fall, and his eyesight is really poor. Some better lighting in his shop would help, but mostly, he needs to recognize his limitations and accept his failures. The problem I have is that he refuses to accept his mistakes and when confronted (even repeatedly) glosses over and explains what the customer can do to correct it! And yet, his shop is chock full of work waiting to be done. I really hope he performs better work on these rifles than mine...
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Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:33 pm |
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kc0yef
Location: thurston Joined: Sat Aug 3, 2013 Posts: 208
Real Name: James
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I have a rifle done by Mike a long long long time ago it is perfect. How old is he now 90? I sure hope he recovers from the fall.
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Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:03 am |
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3584ELK
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Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253
Real Name: Mark
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I would guess he is pushing late 70's. I suppose it is Buyer Beware, as with everything else.
_________________"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
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Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:11 am |
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6214
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He did good work for me in the past. This is sad to,see
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Sat May 21, 2016 7:18 pm |
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Oleman
Location: Eastside Joined: Sat Jun 2, 2012 Posts: 1074
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I stopped going to Palazzo after I had to take the last two guns he worked on to someone else to get it right. He was more interested in talking to his buddy in his shop than talking about my problem. That was the last chance the door of his shop had and chance to hit me in the ass.
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Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:47 pm |
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Stokes
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Location: Oly Joined: Thu Oct 4, 2012 Posts: 1341
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I recently saw work of his where he destroyed a ZG47. A real shame.
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Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:15 pm |
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
Real Name: Mike
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This exactly the kind of work that caused me to start doing all my own work. The only work that gets done in another shop is work that REQUIRES a lathe. For that I use Benchmark and it almost always involves chambering and installing a new barrel
I do my own coating so I have nobody else to blame for improper prep.
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Fri Jun 10, 2016 5:33 am |
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3584ELK
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Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253
Real Name: Mark
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deadshot- I learned the same lesson after my Palazzo and Williamson experiences.
At the prices being charged these days, there is simply no excuse for that kind of incompetence.
_________________"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
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Fri Jun 10, 2016 7:10 am |
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traveler58
Location: covington Joined: Sat Oct 28, 2017 Posts: 1
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Really wish I had seen all this before letting him have a couple projects of my own. First was a guide pin assy from a ruger american 9mm. Simple enough I thought and also left a priceless (to me) blackpowder project that had been my dads before he passed of cancer. barell was a custom SHARON. It needed the wedge assy and front sight installed. A week later I get a call saying he cant use the front sight and has LOST my SHARON rifle barell in his shop. After a few days of letting him look for it and letting anger and shock wear off a bit I called him again. Still no barell, and now refuses angrily to return the remaining parts of the project over the phone twice when asked. Said I should come in person. I did promptly and after getting another refusal and an angry reply I got the kent PD involved. Now at least I get the stock and almost all the other parts back but still no barell. promises police he will find it after the weekend. WTF. Oh, the Ruger pin assy turned out to be useless after having him re install the spring that wanted to come off. Ruger replaced it under warranty. Kudos to them. Unfortunately, after this weekend it looks like I may have to resort to court to get the barell back. Meanwhile although I may find another barell to replace it, it will never again be the same project. Gone from priceless to worthless. I am sure he was good in his day, but I too will not recommend bringing anything to Mr palazzo
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 4:38 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52032
Real Name: Steve
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Welcome to WaGuns, traveler58.
That sounds like an awful experience. Let us know how it turns out.
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Sat Oct 28, 2017 5:52 am |
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kc0yef
Location: thurston Joined: Sat Aug 3, 2013 Posts: 208
Real Name: James
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MIKE IS BACK AND 1he is making 00% I am so glad he survived all the hip replacement and OMG his rifles are just like he was doing in the 70s and 80s. So glad to ha ve a true craftsman back after adversity
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:02 pm |
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usrifle
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Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 20771
Real Name: John
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kc0yef wrote: MIKE IS BACK AND 1he is making 00% I am so glad he survived all the hip replacement and OMG his rifles are just like he was doing in the 70s and 80s. So glad to ha ve a true craftsman back after adversity So he got a new Hip and that fixes everything?
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Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:34 pm |
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3584ELK
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Location: Lake Andes, S. Dakota Joined: Thu Aug 8, 2013 Posts: 1253
Real Name: Mark
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Yeah, right...I wonder if Jim (kc0yef) has left any of his firearms with Mike? How is that "00%" progress going?
I once watched Mike "bore sight" a rifle and to get access to the turrets, he used a pair of Stanley Channel Lok pliers on the turret caps, scarring the beschizzle out of them. The poor owner stood there with open mouth and disbelief.
As stated in my original post: "you have been warned".
_________________"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." - Thomas Jefferson
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:48 am |
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NWGunner
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu May 2, 2013 Posts: 12475
Real Name: Steve
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usrifle wrote: kc0yef wrote: MIKE IS BACK AND 1he is making 00% I am so glad he survived all the hip replacement and OMG his rifles are just like he was doing in the 70s and 80s. So glad to ha ve a true craftsman back after adversity So he got a new Hip and that fixes everything? Well, he can dance now...
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Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:15 pm |
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