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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19471
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Looks like you guys forgot to mention something. The date stamp is beyond the ten year mark.
Looks like I'll be buying two twenty's after all.
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4836
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Got an engraver? Certify it yourself.
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:48 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38310
Real Name: Dan
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mcyclonegt wrote: :bigsmile: I just filled 940 gallons for 1.19 a gallon. WHERE! I've been waiting for the prices to drop to have them come fill up my tank (she's on... fumes lol). I got my tank and initial fill from All American Propane. Lasted 2 years on 125 gallons.. That's pretty good.
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6817
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Massivedesign wrote: mcyclonegt wrote: :bigsmile: I just filled 940 gallons for 1.19 a gallon. WHERE! I've been waiting for the prices to drop to have them come fill up my tank (she's on... fumes lol). I got my tank and initial fill from All American Propane. Lasted 2 years on 125 gallons.. That's pretty good. I went with pacific coast out of Tumwater this time. C&D, all American were 10 cents higher this year.
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JohnMBrowning
Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 4882
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I've been swapping out my old rusty/out of date tanks at Blue Rhino..... get nice shiny tanks in return. Went and got one filled completely a couple of weeks ago --- what a difference to get a FULL tank - gauge on the weber still saying 'full' after two weeks of use --- exchange tank starts out a 3/4.
I went down to the local RV park - only ~1.5 miles from the house - $2.49/gallon --- FULL tank for $16.29. Its not really worth it to try and get a better price per gallon --- $.15 on 4.7 gallons is only $.70 on a full fill -- you'll spend more in gas driving to save that $.70.... BTW --- the nicest people run RV park.... although the guy did give me a bit of grief because the BR tank was out of date.... told him their website says they test each tank when they fill and he seemed ok with it.
Heads up too --- keep an eye on whether the tank is a single handle or a double handled tank if it matters to you ---- my weber doesn't like the double handled tanks..... hose is too short to reach on a double handled tank --- found this out the hard way. Had to go to several BR cages to find a single handled tank last time, chocked full of doubles.
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golddigger14s
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Location: Faxon, OK Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 17822
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JohnMBrowning wrote: I've been swapping out my old rusty/out of date tanks at Blue Rhino..... get nice shiny tanks in return. Went and got one filled completely a couple of weeks ago --- what a difference to get a FULL tank - gauge on the weber still saying 'full' after two weeks of use --- exchange tank starts out a 3/4.
I went down to the local RV park - only ~1.5 miles from the house - $2.49/gallon --- FULL tank for $16.29. Its not really worth it to try and get a better price per gallon --- $.15 on 4.7 gallons is only $.70 on a full fill -- you'll spend more in gas driving to save that $.70.... BTW --- the nicest people run RV park.... although the guy did give me a bit of grief because the BR tank was out of date.... told him their website says they test each tank when they fill and he seemed ok with it.
Heads up too --- keep an eye on whether the tank is a single handle or a double handled tank if it matters to you ---- my weber doesn't like the double handled tanks..... hose is too short to reachh on a double handled tank --- found this out the hard way. Had to go to several BR cages to find a single handled tank last time, chocked full of doubles. That's what she said.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:53 pm |
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deadshot2
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Location: Marysville, WA Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 Posts: 11581
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AR15L wrote: How much should the tank weigh? 38 lbs. for a full 20 lb. size propane tank, 18 lbs. if empty. 54 lbs. for a full 30 lb. size propane tank, 24 lbs. if empty. 70 lbs. for a full 40 lb. size propane tank, 29 lbs. if empty.
What size is my propane tank? 18 inches high and 12.5 inches diameter for a 20 lb. propane tank 24 inches high and 12.5 inches diameter for a 30 lb. propane tank 29 inches high and 12.5 inches in diameter for a 40 lb. propane tank
YES! Now I will get the weight scale. I've got two 30# tanks on my travel trailer. On the top collar there are several "stampings" giving all the pertinent data for each given tank. They aren't all necessarily the same so use what's stamped on the collar. Only two that matter are the TW (Tare Weight) and the capacity which in my case is 30#. Add the two together and that's what the tank should weigh when full. I weigh my tanks prior to a camping trip to make sure I don't run out. Hate cold food, cold water, and a cold butt Where you can get screwed is when you are low, know you need more propane than you have then have to buy a spare or exchange the partially full tank. I prefer to fill by meter. That and the fact my tanks are 30# and no exchange. One plus to 20# exchanges is when your tank is reaching it's "inspection date". Exchange and get one that has years to go rather than just months.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:17 pm |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19471
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I plan on doing some yard sales this weekend. I should be able to find a 20lb tank or two for next to nothing. If all else fails, I have a plan B: $29.99 NEW at Lowes. Pacific Welding Supplies in Auburn said refills are $13.95
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19471
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deadshot2
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AR15L wrote: I plan on doing some yard sales this weekend. I should be able to find a 20lb tank or two for next to nothing.
Just make sure it has the newer OPD (triangular handle) valve on it if you want to get it filled. Might also check the date on the top collar too. A new tank is a great idea. Nothing to worry about for 10 years. The most likely reason tanks are sold at garage sales is that the fill station refused to fill that old BBQ tank as it didn't have the OPD valve or it's re certification date has passed. Well there is also the possibility It was stolen from someone's travel trailer parked alongside their house or in a storage lot.
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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4836
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The "certification date" is a BS Scam. Its as bad as paying the fire extinguisher inspector to turn your bottle over and smack it with a mallet and look at the gauge and give you a new tag.
If the tank looks good with no GOUGES or bad PITTED rust then just get out your engraver and put a new date on it yourself. Thats all the propane guy does. He looks it over, takes your money and then scribbles some shit on it with an engraver.
Its NOTHING like getting a real cylinder certed at the welding supply. They actually take high pressure tanks and dip them into a measured container of liquid and then measure the amount of liquid displaced when its charged with high pressure. If it leaks or displaces too much fluid, its rejected. If its ok, it gets recerted.
The guy at the propane place performs NO actual TEST om your tank, he just looks it over for MONEY.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:19 pm |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19471
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Quote: Just make sure it has the newer OPD (triangular handle) valve on it if you want to get it filled. Might also check the date on the top collar too. Yep, got it stamped in my brain. I knew about the OPD but actually forgot about the date. Quote: Its NOTHING like getting a real cylinder certed at the welding supply. I was quoted $35 for a recert on my 30lb tank from Pacific. Mmm... no thanks.
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Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:43 pm |
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JohnMBrowning
Location: Bothell Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 Posts: 4882
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Don't overlook a non OPD tank if you find one for free --- you can still exchange it at BR for a good tank --- only thing they reject for is severely abused tanks - dented, HEAVY rust.
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Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:37 am |
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AR15L
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Location: Nampa, Idaho Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2011 Posts: 19471
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JohnMBrowning wrote: Don't overlook a non OPD tank if you find one for free --- you can still exchange it at BR for a good tank --- only thing they reject for is severely abused tanks - dented, HEAVY rust. That I didn't think they'd do. Thanks
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12963
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I've got both a 30 pound tank, and a 40 pound tank that don't have the new valve on them. (Ergo, you'd think they are also out of date. I never checked.) They fill them every time. No problem. Why? I took a large marker, and wrote "Torch only" on the tanks. If they ask, I tell them they are for the weedburner torch. I do use them for that, sometimes, so I'm not lying...
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