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Old Growth
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Location: Nisqually Valley Joined: Wed Oct 5, 2016 Posts: 4834
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usrifle wrote: Damn....you have some nice Wood OG. Thanks John.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:09 am |
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PMB
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Old Growth wrote: 1, Truck mounted V8 flathead ford powered double drum Skagit Yarder. 2 & 3, 1941 Chain driven Ford logging truck. On either a Mack or Cooks conversion suspension. 4, Tracked log arch All very cool! Please expand on the tracked log arch. I can't tell you how many times a smaller version of this would have been invaluable in a project... Basically would have saved projects from having to be held up until summer. I have two log arches (wheeled) that are great, but not as cool as that tracked one. How often do you use it? How large a machine do you need to pull it? I'm going to be looking at building a smaller version here after the new mill is finished.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:08 am |
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Old Growth
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The arch is not mine. Its an old cat arch that was used by LT Murry out here by me. Its in Mineral.
All the pics here are mine, and all the wood is mine. The junk is either mine or owned by someone I know or from my travels chasing junk to drag home.
I don't know that a tracked arch has many advantages over a tires one. Back in the cat days they didn't have tires tough enough to handle being roughed up by the cat skinners.
After the way surplus airplane tires were available and TOUGH enough to bounce off of stumps so most guys abandoned the track arches.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:46 am |
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Old Growth
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After WWI crawlers were being seen more and more in the woods and the crawler and arch along with a cable yarder/donkey allowed timber to be pulled from miles away from a landing. Thus bringing in the era/start of selective logging instead of clear cutting to reach the desired market/species.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:52 am |
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PMB
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The advantage of a tracked (anything) over a wheeled (anything) is the weight per square foot. You can have a very heavy machine on tracks that has a far lower impact on the ground it has to go over. If I do get to build one, it will be a lighter version that allows me to get into someone's soft ground for a special log... It really will make a difference, especially over things like drain fields. They may be obsolete (or not used much) in the large scale logging, but I have been in many situations that a small (relatively light) tracked arch would have kicked butt.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:23 am |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 52032
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Wow, Brad . . . this is some REALLY cool stuff. Thanks for posting!
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Old Growth
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PMB wrote: The advantage of a tracked (anything) over a wheeled (anything) is the weight per square foot. You can have a very heavy machine on tracks that has a far lower impact on the ground it has to go over. If I do get to build one, it will be a lighter version that allows me to get into someone's soft ground for a special log... It really will make a difference, especially over things like drain fields. They may be obsolete (or not used much) in the large scale logging, but I have been in many situations that a small (relatively light) tracked arch would have kicked butt. I understand all that. Sometimes a man has to wonder if the time building something that will only be used a handful of times is worth the extra time/expense. If the log has that kinda high value, I will usually just pay a crane fella to fly it over the house/drain field and set it on my trailer. Tracked anything may have less ground pressure, but will do massive ground damage. Just compare your backhoes footprints to that of a similar weight dozer. I have found that LARGE tired lightweight rigs work well for recovery skidding. What would you tow this envisioned track arch with? Sometimes it hurts, but some logs just arent worth saving if the cost/effort outweighs the return. I used to be a young man with more strength and time than money and sense. No I pick my battles according to time and effort involved. Im starting to realize I only have so many battles left to attend.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:48 pm |
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Old Growth
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MadPick wrote: Wow, Brad . . . this is some REALLY cool stuff. Thanks for posting! Thanks Steve!
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:49 pm |
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Old Growth
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Mike, Ill be starting another thread soon with a recovery/haul rig build. This week I bought a deuce n a half to outfit with a specialized bed and knuckle boom for just this kinda work.
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Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:52 pm |
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Old Growth
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Sinker log that has been in Lake Union since 1930. Topping a Fir in Morton. Last two, big Deodar logs.
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:34 am |
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sportsdad60
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Coolest thread on WAGUNS! Thanks for sharing!
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Pablo
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Awesome!!
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Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:54 pm |
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Old Growth
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Thanks Fellas!
1 Bark brown eye. 2 Door that my friend Jim built. 3 Random crosscut saws. I have way more (it gets to be a problem!) 4 A truck load of DragSaws I brought home. ( I may have to many of those to!)
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Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:34 am |
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Old Growth
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1 Funny local kids! 2 Blacksmith forged hinges 3 Old barn Reclaim 4 Standing dead Giant Sequoia I cut that was very colorful
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Pablo
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wow............ Sweet pictures
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