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Stolen Winchester 1892
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Site Supporter   Location: Tacoma Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 4574 
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Just saw this on arf.com:
Quote: (Crossposting from GD.) Today I got a call from John Taylor of Taylor Machine in Puyallup, to whom I shipped my Winchester 1892 to get the barrel relined. All he received was an empty box. I'm going to file a police report for a stolen firearm tomorrow but in the meantime I am posting this here: Type: Lever action rifle Make: Winchester Model: 1892 Serial number: 100156 Barrel length: 24 inches Caliber: .38 WCF AKA 38-40 Win Finish: Metal has turned brown. Buttstock and forend are brown walnut wood. The rifle is an antique manufactured in 1898 per the factory letter that I got from the Buffalo Bill Center of the Wild West. Pictures of the stolen rifle are on my blog here.https://blogostuff.blogspot.com/2019/01/stolen-winchester-1892.html Any help in recovery will be appreciated. Note: Mr. Taylor has a stellar reputation, which is why I was shipping a rifle from PA to WA. I do not believe he is trying to pull a fast one. Quote: Welp, one more BTT from me. I filed the report with my local PD this morning. The officer was very helpful, especially after he saw all the documentation that I prepared and gave to him (receipts, shipping records, photos of the rifle, etc.). The report will be uploaded to the NCIC. I went to the UPS Store from where I shipped the rifle and I'm waiting for a call back from the owner later today. If he doesn't, I am going to raise holy hell. Aside from that, I have sent emails and Facebook messages to about 25 local FFLs and to 14 FFLs out in WA, the area to which I shipped the rifle. I've gotten a few replies indicating that they'll keep an eye out. Keeping my fingers crossed but trying not to get my hopes up. ETA: Here's the thread on arf: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Hometown/Stolen-Winchester-1892/15-630511/ _________________ You may be right, I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for Last edited by RocketScott on Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:24 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:08 am |
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Site Moderator   Location: WA/MT Joined: Wed Mar 6, 2013 Posts: 11982
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GD, but I hate to see thievery of any kind, but firearm thievery riles me up especially.
And it was entrusted to a shipping company. What a mess. _________________ "I like causing trouble, but only if I'm aware of it. To think I created a problem by accident was disappointing." Traut "If you wanna be close to the big town you’re gonna have to eat shit sammiches a lot." Dan360 "The greatest challenge that I faced was peeling back the layers of my own bias" "There are violent crazy murderous people in our society! We need to give up all of our means of self-protection IMMEDIATELY!" |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:20 am |
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Site Supporter Location: Tacoma Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 4574
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Just magically fell out of the box, right
If it happened in a sort facility I would think it would be obvious, unless they were organized enough to have multiple people involved. A handgun could slip into a pocket but how is someone going to get out of the facility with a rifle? Once it goes on the truck and leaves the facility it's down to just one person. I bet they're going to bust that guys balls for a while. _________________ You may be right, I may be crazy, but it just may be a lunatic you're looking for |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:30 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Auburn West Hill Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 Posts: 10331 Real Name: Casey
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RocketScott wrote: Just magically fell out of the box, right If it happened in a sort facility I would think it would be obvious, unless they were organized enough to have multiple people involved. A handgun could slip into a pocket but how is someone going to get out of the facility with a rifle? Once it goes on the truck and leaves the facility it's down to just one person. I bet they're going to bust that guys balls for a while. My bet is on the employee at the UPS store _________________ Actor portrayal, Action figures sold separately, You must be at least this tall to ride, Individual results may vary, Sales tax not included, All models are over 18 years of age, upon approval of credit, Quantities are limited while supplies last, Some restrictions apply, Not available with other offers, At participating locations only, Void where prohibited, Above terms subject to change without notice, Patent pending. See my blog: http://tincanbandit.blogspot.com/ |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:44 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Duvall Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 17817 Real Name: Paco X
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"UPS Ground, insured"
UPS Bastards better be acting and not just talking. Stat _________________ “Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts” I am a gun owner. I am stereotyped. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:37 am |
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 Location: Yelm Joined: Fri Nov 9, 2012 Posts: 3239 Real Name: Sean
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UPS Store, or UPS Facility. The one out here in Yelm won't even ship a scope. OMFG, SCARY GUN PARTS!
It smells like soy in that store. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:42 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer  Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 5720
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UPS store are not supposed to handle shipping of firearms but, I know it's happened before.
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| Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:48 am |
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 Site Supporter  Location: Edmonds Joined: Thu Jul 31, 2014 Posts: 6099 Real Name: Curtis
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waglocker wrote: UPS Store, or UPS Facility. The one out here in Yelm won't even ship a scope. OMFG, SCARY GUN PARTS! It smells like soy in that store. Tell me about it. I ordered 100 AR mags and had them shipped to a UPS Store in VA so my brother could cash them in for a handsome profit at a Baltimore PD "buyback" the week before Christmas. Long story short, BPD changed the rules at the last minute and limited the mag turn-in to 2 per person, so I had my brother ship them back to Primary Arms for me for a refund. He just made one small "mistake"; he cut open the box at the front counter to put the Return Authorization info inside, and the employee saw the magazines and said "No no no, we can't ship those." My brother just looked at him and said, "Then how did they get here?" Even the manager said they wouldn't ship anything gun-related, so my brother just walked across the street to FedEx and shipped them from there. And before someone says that it's just a UPS store policy, that doesn't make any difference to me; the knee-jerk fear of all things guns is insanely stupid. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:00 am |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 5720
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Guns4Liberty wrote: waglocker wrote: UPS Store, or UPS Facility. The one out here in Yelm won't even ship a scope. OMFG, SCARY GUN PARTS! It smells like soy in that store. And before someone says that it's just a UPS store policy, that doesn't make any difference to me; the knee-jerk fear of all things guns is insanely stupid. I agree. UPS store told me the same thing when I was shipping return items to Brownells with their UPS provided label. _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:05 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Redmond Joined: Sun Apr 7, 2013 Posts: 2631
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dreadi wrote: UPS store are not supposed to handle shipping of firearms but, I know it's happened before. When I needed to send my Henry back for service, the owner at the UPS Store sold me a box and said to not tell him what was in it when I came back to ship it out. Granted, I had a mailbox there and was on a first name basis with the owner and employees... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:15 pm |
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Site Supporter / FFL Dealer Location: Tacoma, Washington Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2014 Posts: 5720
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edogg wrote: dreadi wrote: UPS store are not supposed to handle shipping of firearms but, I know it's happened before. When I needed to send my Henry back for service, the owner at the UPS Store sold me a box and said to not tell him what was in it when I came back to ship it out. Granted, I had a mailbox there and was on a first name basis with the owner and employees... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Let me guess. You shipped out some metal samples. _________________ BLACK HAMMER ARMS 1911 Pistolsmithing Firearm Refinishing NEMO Arms Authorized Dealer http://www.blackhammerarms.com http://www.facebook.com/blackhammerarms |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:19 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: RENTON Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 Posts: 10875 Real Name: John
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Why People use UPS or Fedex to ship a Long Gun is beyond me. USPS People! I have shipped dozens that way and never had a Problem.
I hope the OP gets his Winchester back, but not holding my breath unless it's found during an unrelated bust of some sort. _________________ Mr. Q wrote: so basically, if you have to smoke some asshole, make sure they become fertilizer and then Bounce? got it. NRA Member/RSO SAF 5 Year Donor GOA Member |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:23 pm |
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Site Admin   Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 38002 Real Name: Steve
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usrifle wrote: Why People use UPS or Fedex to ship a Long Gun is beyond me. USPS People! I have shipped dozens that way and never had a Problem. Well, there are plenty of stories of Post Office employees refusing to ship guns, as well. _________________ Steve Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association Life Member, Second Amendment Foundation Life Member, Gun Owners of America Life Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms Legal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy Coalition Please support the organizations that support all of us. Leave it cleaner than you found it. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:54 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Duvall Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 17817 Real Name: Paco X
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MadPick wrote: usrifle wrote: Why People use UPS or Fedex to ship a Long Gun is beyond me. USPS People! I have shipped dozens that way and never had a Problem. Well, there are plenty of stories of Post Office employees refusing to ship guns, as well. And even more of postal theft. _________________ “Individual liberty and freedom are not outmoded concepts” I am a gun owner. I am stereotyped. |
| Fri Jan 04, 2019 12:59 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Hoodsport/Shelton Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 2747 Real Name: Don
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I've NEVER had an issue with shipping or receiving from the USPS...been doing so for over 30 years.
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