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"For some time now, backplates that convert Glock handguns to machineguns have been available through the app from $12-$32 dollars. Some were advertised as airsoft parts, while others as legitimate 80% parts kits for licensed manufacturers, and some finally blatantly stated they were conversion kits."


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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes...

A few years ago, I saw Chinese websites selling steel "Airsoft Mock Suppressors" that came with full baffle kits and 1/2-28 threads (99% of airsoft threading is -14mm).

I was sorely tempted to snag one and try it on a .22 pistol, but the risk was too great for me.
Sticking with the legal method instead.

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wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.

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wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.
Also kinda suspends the fantasy that 80% lowers/frames are worth the squeeze (the glock ones are a different frame than actual glock frames so there is something there).


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Is the pointy end supposed to go into the slide? Seems like a pretty simple mechanism.

I remember flipping through a book at the wac show that showed how to convert a Glock to full auto and it seemed more complicated than just dropping a part in. I do remember it showing a switch on the back plate to make it selectable


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wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.
Also kinda suspends the fantasy that 80% lowers/frames are worth the squeeze (the glock ones are a different frame than actual glock frames so there is something there).

For the life of me, I can't understand an 80% lower costing twice what a 100% lower costs...

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beckdw wrote:
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wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.
Also kinda suspends the fantasy that 80% lowers/frames are worth the squeeze (the glock ones are a different frame than actual glock frames so there is something there).

For the life of me, I can't understand an 80% lower costing twice what a 100% lower costs...

That would be for a pretty fancy one. I have bought 80%'s for a pretty decent price for a decent product on par with an average 100%. Just like in the 80% industry, the 100% cheap ones aren't what I would use either. It's a pretty cutthroat market. Also supply and demand plays a part.

The ONLY reason for the 80% existence, is pride out of making one, and perhaps non-traceability. It does feel good.

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beckdw wrote:
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wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.
Also kinda suspends the fantasy that 80% lowers/frames are worth the squeeze (the glock ones are a different frame than actual glock frames so there is something there).

For the life of me, I can't understand an 80% lower costing twice what a 100% lower costs...

That would be for a pretty fancy one. I have bought 80%'s for a pretty decent price for a decent product on par with an average 100%. Just like in the 80% industry, the 100% cheap ones aren't what I would use either. It's a pretty cutthroat market. Also supply and demand plays a part.

The ONLY reason for the 80% existence, is pride out of making one, and perhaps non-traceability. It does feel good.


From this story it would seem that the 80% ones are traceable, unless of course the seller destroys their records

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Selador wrote:
beckdw wrote:
OhShoot! wrote:
wow that is quite a story. The ATF is tracking buyers down from the seller's records. Winning stupid prizes is fun.
Also kinda suspends the fantasy that 80% lowers/frames are worth the squeeze (the glock ones are a different frame than actual glock frames so there is something there).

For the life of me, I can't understand an 80% lower costing twice what a 100% lower costs...


Because folks are willing to pay a premium to be “off the books”

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Is the pointy end supposed to go into the slide? Seems like a pretty simple mechanism.


Correct. As the slide closes and the trigger held back it trips the sear causing it to fire and reset until you let off the trigger. There are basic versions that just a back plate with that protruding arm, and fancier ones that have a switch to pull it out of the way. I had the chance to play with a version a while back (was owned by a SOT dealer with the proper paperwork). Was fun for a few minutes, totally impractical, but fun.

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I think that is what blows my mind the most Damon, a full auto pistol is so fucking useless, why the hell risk prison time for one? Even full auto rifle is pretty useless I understand the fun part, but damn. 10 years in prison and loss of gun rights. Fuck that.

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I think that is what blows my mind the most Damon, a full auto pistol is so fucking useless, why the hell risk prison time for one? Even full auto rifle is pretty useless I understand the fun part, but damn. 10 years in prison and loss of gun rights. Fuck that.

It's not completely useless. Let's say you were having trouble getting "it" up...I bet a full-auto Glock would do the trick. Think of it as alternative medicine. :bigsmile:


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A glock in a roni or kpos would be pretty fun

Certainly not $10,000/10 years in club fed fun, but fun nonetheless

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Wouldn’t a full auto be legal to own in a full auto state? What paper work would you need to do to be a street legal owner of a modified Glock? Or, do you need anything other than your carry permit to rock one of these in a full auto legal state?

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Wouldn’t a full auto be legal to own in a full auto state? What paper work would you need to do to be a street legal owner of a modified Glock? Or, do you need anything other than your carry permit to rock one of these in a full auto legal state?


You'd have to be an SOT

The hughes amendment outlawed new machine guns back in '86 on the federal level

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