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Chinese Wuhan coronavirus aka COVID-19 - now in WA
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foothills
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Location: Hoodsport/Shelton Joined: Sat Mar 19, 2011 Posts: 3374
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep Yeah...because us "old farts" don't do anything that "contributes" to a functioning economy. Perhaps we should just institute a "Logan's run" policy...at say what...40? 50? 60? I agree with the bullshit numbers...but the rest of your comment is bullshit.
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| Sat May 02, 2020 7:29 am |
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep I am an old fart, and I endorse this message. Although I may not be staying at home that much.
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| Sat May 02, 2020 7:37 am |
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new daddy
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Location: Normandy Park Joined: Sun Mar 11, 2012 Posts: 1474
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Massivedesign wrote: new daddy wrote: Those tables stop at 4/26. On 4/27, the US hit a valley. Since 4/28, new cases have been on the upswing, heading towards a new peak. Scroll down to the table new cases: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/This matches the WA State curve. In the last 3 days, new cases have almost doubled from156 per day, to 310 per day reported yesterday. The incubation period is estimated between 10 and 28 days.last I heard. That's the problem with making decisions based on found infections. We are now testing more people, and because of that, more positives are being presented. It doesn't mean we have a new outbreak, it means we have the capacity to test more people now. If the increased infections are not also increasing the death count by the same ratio as they have been applying. Also, this snippet on that link gives me the tingles: Quote: In accordance with new CDC guidelines:
New York: the numbers shown below include probable deaths (and, consequently, probable cases for the same number) as reported by New York City Maryland: includes probable deaths, as reported by the Department of Health (Section: "COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland") Wyoming: includes probable cases, as reported by the Department of Health While that could be true, Iim not seeing a big ramp up in testing over the last three days (local hospitals will start testing next week as they open up for elective procedures - and I’ve not heard about expanded testing here in WA). However, if the upward trend is accurate, you’ll see a a peak in the next week (about 20 days from 4/19). After that, you’ll see another peak about 5/20 - around 20 days after the May Day protests.
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| Sat May 02, 2020 7:59 am |
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9063
Real Name: Richard Fitzwelliner
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foothills wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep Yeah...because us "old farts" don't do anything that "contributes" to a functioning economy. Perhaps we should just institute a "Logan's run" policy...at say what...40? 50? 60? I agree with the bullshit numbers...but the rest of your comment is bullshit. You know the gist of what I'm saying. The most people that are dying from this are 70+, they dont work, many of them only put anything into the economy because they get social security. If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
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| Sat May 02, 2020 8:18 am |
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Selador
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Location: Index Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 12955
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: foothills wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep Yeah...because us "old farts" don't do anything that "contributes" to a functioning economy. Perhaps we should just institute a "Logan's run" policy...at say what...40? 50? 60? I agree with the bullshit numbers...but the rest of your comment is bullshit. You know the gist of what I'm saying. The most people that are dying from this are 70+, they dont work, many of them only put anything into the economy because they get social security. If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority I don't think it should be a matter, either, or forcing old farts to stay home. Just state the obvious. Old farts are more likely to die from this. And then encourage them to stay home. If they leave home, that's on their own head. I'll probably at least start wearing a mask, after this. But yeah. It's ridiculous to expect all the people who are likely to not even show symptoms, or to show light symptoms and then be over it, to stay at home because some old people might die. Let the old people stay home, or take precautions. That's been 'the american way' for as long as I remember, before this... let the ones who face the challenge do what it takes. Don't shackle everyone else with the burden. AS an old fart, I'd like to say it would be nice if society was going to do this, if they would at least do some things to make it easier for old farts to deal with it. 
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Isildur
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| Sat May 02, 2020 9:17 am |
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foothills
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: foothills wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep Yeah...because us "old farts" don't do anything that "contributes" to a functioning economy. Perhaps we should just institute a "Logan's run" policy...at say what...40? 50? 60? I agree with the bullshit numbers...but the rest of your comment is bullshit. You know the gist of what I'm saying. The most people that are dying from this are 70+, they dont work, many of them only put anything into the economy because they get social security. If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority That's a bullshit statement. Just because people are on social security doesn't mean they don't have resources to spend and contribute to the economy. Look at all the RV's, new vehicles, home repairs, vacation homes, travel, dining, season ticket holders etc etc that are "old people" financed. I agree that if you have health issues or are more susceptible you should exercise more caution...but to blame the lockdown on old people is arrogance and ignorance.
_________________ "The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living".
-- Travis A Kisner
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| Sat May 02, 2020 9:27 am |
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RocketScott
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Location: Kentucky Joined: Fri Jan 16, 2015 Posts: 11575
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Selador wrote: I don't think it should be a matter, either, or forcing old farts to stay home. Just state the obvious. Old farts are more likely to die from this. And then encourage them to stay home. If they leave home, that's on their own head. I'll probably at least start wearing a mask, after this. But yeah. It's ridiculous to expect all the people who are likely to not even show symptoms, or to show light symptoms and then be over it, to stay at home because some old people might die. Let the old people stay home, or take precautions. That's been 'the american way' for as long as I remember, before this... let the ones who face the challenge do what it takes. Don't shackle everyone else with the burden. AS an old fart, I'd like to say it would be nice if society was going to do this, if they would at least do some things to make it easier for old farts to deal with it.  This guy gets it The lock down isn't the fault of the older population, they are the excuse being used for it though
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RockHopper
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I think there's a considerable difference between blaming the victims, and pointing out a preferred method of social triage.
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| Sat May 02, 2020 9:35 am |
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Pvanderzee
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Location: Bow Joined: Tue Apr 2, 2013 Posts: 2688
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new daddy wrote: Massivedesign wrote: new daddy wrote: Those tables stop at 4/26. On 4/27, the US hit a valley. Since 4/28, new cases have been on the upswing, heading towards a new peak. Scroll down to the table new cases: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/This matches the WA State curve. In the last 3 days, new cases have almost doubled from156 per day, to 310 per day reported yesterday. The incubation period is estimated between 10 and 28 days.last I heard. That's the problem with making decisions based on found infections. We are now testing more people, and because of that, more positives are being presented. It doesn't mean we have a new outbreak, it means we have the capacity to test more people now. If the increased infections are not also increasing the death count by the same ratio as they have been applying. Also, this snippet on that link gives me the tingles: Quote: In accordance with new CDC guidelines:
New York: the numbers shown below include probable deaths (and, consequently, probable cases for the same number) as reported by New York City Maryland: includes probable deaths, as reported by the Department of Health (Section: "COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland") Wyoming: includes probable cases, as reported by the Department of Health While that could be true, Iim not seeing a big ramp up in testing over the last three days (local hospitals will start testing next week as they open up for elective procedures - and I’ve not heard about expanded testing here in WA). However, if the upward trend is accurate, you’ll see a a peak in the next week (about 20 days from 4/19). After that, you’ll see another peak about 5/20 - around 20 days after the May Day protests. I can't attest to the rest of the state, but here in Skagit Co., there was drive-through testing available to first responders only at Skagit Valley College April 21-23. On the 27th, the site opened up to the general public. I would not be surprised if other counties, particularly our neighboring counties, have started similar practices, but again I can't verify that. The only reason I know about the testing at the college here is because of the email circulated through the fire departments and EMS agencies extending the invitation for the earlier testing date.
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Bxc53
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Mediumrarechicken wrote: If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority
Yeah, OK... Why don’t you get back to us when you hit 65 or so. Let’s see if you are ready to roll over and die so as to not inconvenience the next generation of young self-entitled shitheads . In the meantime, Get off my Lawn... ;)
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| Sat May 02, 2020 9:37 am |
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9063
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foothills wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: foothills wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: I'm so over this shit. The numbers are bullshit, the high majority of people survive just like the flu. If you are an old fart stay the fuck home and let people that actually do shit for the economy function as normal. People are stupid sheep Yeah...because us "old farts" don't do anything that "contributes" to a functioning economy. Perhaps we should just institute a "Logan's run" policy...at say what...40? 50? 60? I agree with the bullshit numbers...but the rest of your comment is bullshit. You know the gist of what I'm saying. The most people that are dying from this are 70+, they dont work, many of them only put anything into the economy because they get social security. If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority That's a bullshit statement. Just because people are on social security doesn't mean they don't have resources to spend and contribute to the economy. Look at all the RV's, new vehicles, home repairs, vacation homes, travel, dining, season ticket holders etc etc that are "old people" financed. I agree that if you have health issues or are more susceptible you should exercise more caution...but to blame the lockdown on old people is arrogance and ignorance. People with their only income being social security arnt buying rv's....nor technically helping the economy
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out.
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Mediumrarechicken
Location: Puyallup Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2012 Posts: 9063
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Bxc53 wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority
Yeah, OK... Why don’t you get back to us when you hit 65 or so. Let’s see if you are ready to roll over and die so as to not inconvenience the next generation of young self-entitled shitheads . In the meantime, Get off my Lawn... ;) If I was old and susceptible to health issues and wanted to live I would take it upon myself to stay my ass at home so I wouldnt be a burden on society.....
_________________ If she sits on your face and you can still hear, SHE'S NOT FAT.
I'm going to type out 3 paragraphs and wax eloquently about a similar story in my life. Pm me if you figured it out.
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OhShoot!
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Bxc53 wrote: Mediumrarechicken wrote: If you are old or health problems stay home, let the able bodied people live life. We shouldnt be holed up because of a minority
Yeah, OK... Why don’t you get back to us when you hit 65 or so. Let’s see if you are ready to roll over and die so as to not inconvenience the next generation of young self-entitled shitheads . In the meantime, Get off my Lawn... ;) Exactly what Bxc53 said. i'm not willing to risk the health of my family. My mother is not expendable. The complete lack of planning and funding for this disease is the real root of the problem. Also, many people of all ages are dying, and not just the elderly. Any of us could be next.
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shaggy
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As i've said all along, we can drag this out the next 6 months(or more), and everyone can quarantine or we can open up, old people can still quarantine and we can burn through this in a couple months. There is no value in young people staying home. x% of people will get this either way.
So to the old people in this discussion, do you want to stay home for 6 months, or a couple months?
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