And that, exactly, is the heart of the matter. For younger folks, odds are better to get COVID. For older folks, or those with co-morbidities,’odds are better getting the vaccine.

Let's stop calling it a vaccine, because that's not what it is. It's an experimental biological agent - it has not earned vaccine status yet.

“A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease.[1][2] A vaccine typically contains a biological preparation from disease-causing microorganism, or since the beginning of the 21st century, made synthetically that resembles it. This preparation is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins. The agent stimulates the body's immune system to recognize the agent as a threat and starts producing antibodies against it , so as to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future”

By this definition, it is clearly a vaccine. You must subscribe to a different definition

No, what I subscribe to is the belief that adequate time for development to ensure efficacy AND safety must be allowed before rushing to widespread distribution. I call this an "experimental biological agent" because everyone who is being given it is participating in a giant clinical trial, the effects of which could be disastrous in the coming months and years. We'll have to wait and see.

Sometimes when the ship is sinking you just have to start bailing and stop worrying about your destination. And you are right, we can only wait and see how it plays out

But that (the bolded part of your statement) is the trillion-dollar question, isn't it? Is the ship actually sinking, or are we just being told it's sinking? It's hard for me to see a 99+% survival rate and see a sinking ship. Even for those at or near the end of their natural life, whose survival rate drops to 95% (+/-), how is this something bringing the world to its knees? Does this make any sense?

It's fake news. Is read the actual WHO statement referenced in the article. No policy or procedural changes. Simply a reminder to re-read and follow the existing procedures carefully to ensure everyone is up to speed on how to administer these tests accurately.

Stupid fuking Biden
"Covid-19 Contracted by Scores of National Guard Members in Washington"

https://www.wsj.com/articles/security-e ... 1611326520

Seeing all of those guys stacked up on each other like roaches... who'da thunk, eh Corn-pop?

Here is how I look at it.
1. A 99+% survival rate is a composite statistic for all age groups.

2. Whether you think the ship is sinking or not turns out to be a matter of personal perspective, I.e. it depends on how old you are. At 65 the death rate is somewhere between 1-4% depending on what source you look at. At 85 it’s somewhere between 8-30%. So if you set out to protect the elderly, then the ship was definitely sinking, and fast.

3. When you refer to bringing the world to its knees, I assume you are now talking about the shutdowns. Clearly, that was a bad idea. People who are susceptible due to age or medical conditions should isolate, and everybody else should get on with their business. The problem with that approach comes when those susceptible people must go to work and cannot isolate. Masks help, but I would hate to have to rely on most masks, while in close contact with non-mask wearers. For those susceptible people, it would be a better policy to pay them to stay home and then keep the economy open. Hell, pay them double, and it would still be cheaper than shutting everything down again.

4. I’m a damn engineer, not a medical expert. I’m just going on what data I’ve been able to find. I could be full of shit here.

A lot of good points here.

There are reports out of Brazil and other places that claim there is a strain that affects young people more strongly.

In other news:

Biden says, "There’s nothing we can do to change the trajectory of the pandemic in the next several months.”
Hmmm...

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... n=20210122

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So the distribution of the salt water vaccine is predominantly the Governors of the states in concert with his Hospitals and health care people in that state...right?

So these motherfukers knew sooner or later there was gonna be "the cure".

Its been a fuking year as of yesterday.

the Vaccine been available for 45 days and theyre crying that theres no infrastructure to vaccinate people......


Well what in the flying fuk have these politicians been doing?

You'd think first thing after the first wave theyd get together and build that infrastructure so when and if the vaccine comes available theyd have smooth application of that vaccine????

WOULDNT YOU if you were GOVERNOR?????


Inlseee needs slapped in the face with a used gym sock full of warm dog shit.

I would use frozen dog shit. But other than that, I agree.