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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6175
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Infrastructure for what? Selling more wares for Big Pharma? For the billions spent, will it end up in any lives saved? Or productive years for healthy people? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccineI thought vaccines introduce an attenuated organism so the host develops a healthy response to a pathogen. But the so-called mRNA agent does not do this, correct? So why is this called a vaccine? So it has the blanket immunity from lawsuits that vaccines have?
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OhShoot!
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Location: Bellingham Canada Joined: Thu Jan 3, 2013 Posts: 4995
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jackass wrote: Infrastructure for what? Selling more wares for Big Pharma? For the billions spent, will it end up in any lives saved? Or productive years for healthy people? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccineI thought vaccines introduce an attenuated organism so the host develops a healthy response to a pathogen. But the so-called mRNA agent does not do this, correct? So why is this called a vaccine? So it has the blanked immunity from lawsuits that vaccines have? Keep doing your research about the mRNA program. Soon it may cure cancer and other diseases. This research has been going on for a lot longer than you are presuming. https://www.modernatx.com/pipeline/ther ... o-oncology
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Eagle Chaplain
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Location: England Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2015 Posts: 2953
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WaJim wrote: ..................
So the distribution of the salt water vaccine is predominantly the Governors of the states in concert with his Hospitals and health care people in that state...right?
So these motherfukers knew sooner or later there was gonna be "the cure".
Its been a fuking year as of yesterday.
the Vaccine been available for 45 days and theyre crying that theres no infrastructure to vaccinate people......
Well what in the flying fuk have these politicians been doing?
You'd think first thing after the first wave theyd get together and build that infrastructure so when and if the vaccine comes available theyd have smooth application of that vaccine????
WOULDNT YOU if you were GOVERNOR?????
Inlseee needs slapped in the face with a used gym sock full of warm dog shit. If only they had practice in distributing vaccines. Ohh wait they do it every year with the flu vaccine. But I believe this vaccine does require to be kept colder than most others.
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6476
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Eagle Chaplain wrote: WaJim wrote: ..................
So the distribution of the salt water vaccine is predominantly the Governors of the states in concert with his Hospitals and health care people in that state...right?
So these motherfukers knew sooner or later there was gonna be "the cure".
Its been a fuking year as of yesterday.
the Vaccine been available for 45 days and theyre crying that theres no infrastructure to vaccinate people......
Well what in the flying fuk have these politicians been doing?
You'd think first thing after the first wave theyd get together and build that infrastructure so when and if the vaccine comes available theyd have smooth application of that vaccine????
WOULDNT YOU if you were GOVERNOR?????
Inlseee needs slapped in the face with a used gym sock full of warm dog shit. If only they had practice in distributing vaccines. Ohh wait they do it every year with the flu vaccine. But I believe this vaccine does require to be kept colder than most others. If you want something irreparably fucked up, Jay is your boy. And you can be sure he will blame it on someone else.
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Pablo
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Arisaka wrote: If you want something irreparably fucked up, Jay is your boy. And you can be sure he will blame it on someone else. Sig line material. 2021 is looking good in this department.
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STED9R
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Got the arm stuck for the second shot today, 1 1/2 in line. 4 hours later, definitely know I've been poked.
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jukk0u
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Komo News is gargling China's butt-cream, parroting their claims that Wuhan is back to normal and here are ZERO cases of Covid there (look at the graph) https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/w ... g-pandemic
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jukk0u
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The new variants and YOU. "More-transmissible variants have the surface-level effect that any particular case of the new variant is more likely to infect you if you’re around it. But they have a longer-term effect that expands exponentially: they spread faster than the wild type, and over the course of time come to dominate the outbreak wherever they are present. Once this happens, such a strain is more likely to run riot even with precautions in place that would control the main wild type." https://theprepared.com/blog/do-you-nee ... 9-78225169"People who have recovered from SARS-CoV-2 infection are usually protected from being infected a second time (called re-infection). This is because they develop neutralizing antibodies that remain in their blood for at least 5-6 months, maybe longer. These antibodies bind to specific parts of the spike protein that have mutated in the new variant (K417N and E484K). We now know that these mutations have allowed the virus to become resistant to antibody neutralization." (emphasis in red, mine) https://www.nicd.ac.za/can-i-be-re-infe ... -covid-19/
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jukk0u
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https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/25/th ... alth-info/"Senior officials including the head of the infectious-disease program at the Department of Health and Human Services, and another individual at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, offered up such (Chinese) testing equipment to various states. Bafflingly, the Food and Drug Administration granted an emergency use authorization to the American subsidiary of the company in question, marking the first time the FDA had approved a device manufactured in China and aiding its efforts to exploit the coronavirus crisis for which it was most culpable."
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chuckisduck
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jackass wrote: Infrastructure for what? Selling more wares for Big Pharma? For the billions spent, will it end up in any lives saved? Or productive years for healthy people? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccineI thought vaccines introduce an attenuated organism so the host develops a healthy response to a pathogen. But the so-called mRNA agent does not do this, correct? So why is this called a vaccine? So it has the blanket immunity from lawsuits that vaccines have? Original ones use attenuated organisms (the old cowpox with a knife), newer ones use parts of capsid/spike proteins (The newer type of polio). The proteins are created by bacterial ribosomes in the lab. Ribosomes (but bacterial and human cells) use mRNA to create the amino acid sequence. mRNA sequences are contained in capsids that get adsorbed by the human cell and then the capsid/proteins are produced by human cells and sent out. The body then sees these at foreign bodies and starts producing antibodies (which take a couple weeks to produce and have at effective levels). Essentially this cuts a step in the production process and brings a quicker vaccine. This is the first time the process has been used on a mass scale.
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surevaliance
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Anthony Fauci is the highest paid employee in U.S. federal government.https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/a ... overnment/ In 2019, his salary was $417,608, the highest salary out of all four million federal employees.
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spaghetti monster
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Vaccine is totally worth it. All the side effects for a few months immunity, maybe a year. https://www.king5.com/article/news/heal ... 9bf49b8a61
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6175
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chuckisduck wrote: Essentially this cuts a step in the production process and brings a quicker vaccine. This is the first time the process has been used on a mass scale. Lovely, too bad I, err..., my estate can't sue anyone for this experimental "vaccine": the pharmaceuticals, the care provider, the medical professional, etc. This worked so well on commercial products we know so well about.
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Arisaka
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Location: Tacoma Joined: Sat May 4, 2013 Posts: 6476
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Moderna says their vaccine appears effective on both the UK and So African variants. More studies underway. Source: BBC
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jackass
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Location: Burien Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 Posts: 6175
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Really, the BBC? The company Eric Blair used to write propaganda for in WW2? How ironic. As a tester, how to do I verify "appears effective"? A very subjective criteria. An objective criteria would be "Only 1% of participants have died within one week of receiving a dose of vaccine".
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