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Spain seeks to institutionalize the increase and assumption of power over its citizens with a new law:

"Consider just how far this Orwellian proposal goes, as reported on in El País:

In the event that a state of crisis is declared in Spain ('situation of interest to National Security' is the name given by law), the authorities may also proceed to the temporary requisition of all types of property, at the intervention or provisional occupation of those that are necessary or the suspension of all kinds of activities.

The backers of the future legislation are seeking to assure the public that "compensation" would eventually follow; however, it would clearly given permanent and endless powers to any ruling government which decided to enact it based on a real or manufactured "crisis". "

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This on the heels of France mulling to make everyone 24-59 bend over and take the prick.

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"As a virus mutates, it becomes more contagious and less lethal. And then eventually it mostly disappears"

"And no, that’s not because of unvaccinated people, or at least there’s no logic in that. If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does. So this CNN piece is suspect. Vaccinated people are potential variant factories, just as much, if and when the vaccines used don’t stop them from being infectious, as the present vaccines don’t, far as we know."

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jukk0u wrote:
"As a virus mutates, it becomes more contagious and less lethal. And then eventually it mostly disappears"

"And no, that’s not because of unvaccinated people, or at least there’s no logic in that. If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does. So this CNN piece is suspect. Vaccinated people are potential variant factories, just as much, if and when the vaccines used don’t stop them from being infectious, as the present vaccines don’t, far as we know."

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This has been my understanding, too. And it makes a certain amount of sense, at least to somebody that isn't a mibrobiologist.

If a virus wants to survive among a population that is at least partially vaccinated against severe illness, then it needs to last longer, spread easier, and keep people alive longer. Viruses that kill quick don't have much time to spread.

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jukk0u wrote:
"If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does."

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If a virus wants to survive...


A virus doesn't have a central nervous system. There is no thought process behind any of what it does

'Reason' and 'Want' have nothing to do with the mutation

The virus is going to mutate over time regardless of outside forces (although it can mutate due to outside forces, it just doesn't decide to do so)

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WA can't even get kids to get regular pre-pandemic vaccines, and they're still bitching about the stupid Wu-flu jab.
https://www.seattletimes.com/education- ... of-school/

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RocketScott wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
"If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does."

Pvanderzee wrote:
If a virus wants to survive...


A virus doesn't have a central nervous system. There is no thought process behind any of what it does

'Reason' and 'Want' have nothing to do with the mutation

The virus is going to mutate over time regardless of outside forces (although it can mutate due to outside forces, it just doesn't decide to do so)


This.

Plus allowing the virus to run IS the best for OUR species.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... our-covid/

"For a start, she isn’t a medical scientist or virologist, she’s a behavioral scientist.

In other words, Michie was one of the individuals responsible for brainwashing the British public using “mind control” and the weaponization of behavioral psychology at the start of the pandemic to make everyone overly terrified of a virus that in reality has a relatively low fatality rate.

The fact that the government used people like Michie to deliberately scare people using “unethical” and “totalitarian” tactics isn’t a conspiracy theory, it’s all been admitted."

Given that Michie effusively praised Communist China’s draconian response to the pandemic, which included welding people inside their own homes, grilling her on her Communist inclinations is perfectly reasonable."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/0 ... our-covid/"

"Scientists on a committee that encouraged the use of fear to control people’s behaviour during the Covid pandemic have admitted its work was “unethical” and “totalitarian”.

I read an article just the other day about the CDC using similar tactics in their response to AIDS; making everyone feel 'at-risk' in order to bend behavior and not stigmatize those who really were most at risk.

And Pablo, as a well-known prick, is interesting in that you now espouse the benefit of having the virus run its course (don't read too much into my 'jab' at you with the playful use of the word 'prick')

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jukk0u wrote:

And Pablo, as a well-known prick, is interesting in that you now espouse the benefit of having the virus run its course (don't read too much into my 'jab' at you with the playful use of the word 'prick')


I have not changed.

We all must do what is right for survival - for one and for all. I still maintain best for ME (age, health, etc) to get the shot, best for the Homo Sapiens species for any viral agent to wipe the weakest out and enhance the strongest.

Does it matter from an ethical perspective that the virus was man made?

Maybe.

From a biological perspective?

Maybe not.

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RocketScott wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
"If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does."

Pvanderzee wrote:
If a virus wants to survive...


A virus doesn't have a central nervous system. There is no thought process behind any of what it does

'Reason' and 'Want' have nothing to do with the mutation

The virus is going to mutate over time regardless of outside forces (although it can mutate due to outside forces, it just doesn't decide to do so)


Expressions, not being literal. I thought that would go without saying. Just like we're tall talking about "the" virus even though there is no singular identifiable entity that is "the" virus.

Much like people, I'm sure every occurrence of the virus is a little different. Two people get sick, one lasts slightly longer than the other, one is slightly more severe, one spreads easier, etc.

Depending on the characteristics of the virus and the host, and external circumstances, one will spread more than the other.

Over time, certain variations spread more than others, some variations die off completely. The ones that stick around are the ones that get their host sick enough spread easier, but don't get their hosts sick enough to be quarantined.

So yes, there is no "want" or "reason," but using those terms make the concept easier to follow.

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Pablo wrote:
RocketScott wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
"If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does."

Pvanderzee wrote:
If a virus wants to survive...


A virus doesn't have a central nervous system. There is no thought process behind any of what it does

'Reason' and 'Want' have nothing to do with the mutation

The virus is going to mutate over time regardless of outside forces (although it can mutate due to outside forces, it just doesn't decide to do so)


This.

Plus allowing the virus to run IS the best for OUR species.

Ask the Aztecs how that worked out for them.

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Ask the Aztecs how that worked out for them.

I think the Aztecs would have needed an antibiotic, and not a vaccine. At least according to this article...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... the-aztecs


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OhShoot! wrote:
Pablo wrote:
RocketScott wrote:
jukk0u wrote:
"If most people are not vaccinated, the virus has no reason to mutate. If many people are, it does."

Pvanderzee wrote:
If a virus wants to survive...


A virus doesn't have a central nervous system. There is no thought process behind any of what it does

'Reason' and 'Want' have nothing to do with the mutation

The virus is going to mutate over time regardless of outside forces (although it can mutate due to outside forces, it just doesn't decide to do so)


This.

Plus allowing the virus to run IS the best for OUR species.

Ask the Aztecs how that worked out for them.


Let's assume it was a virus (it most likely wasn't)...........well your analogy is rather good actually. But not in a woke way.

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/08/hhs-secretary-xavier-becerra-decrees-it-is-absolutely-the-governments-business-to-know-who-has-and-has-not-been-vaccinated/#more-213787
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We The People are insignificant gnats; the power elites will tell us what we are allowed to do, even what they will teach our children in schools. Hopefully people wake up soon and realize this will not end well. Having previously announced the government will go door-to-door asking about vaccination compliance, Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Xavier Becerra declared Thursday that “it is absolutely the government’s business” to know people’s vaccination status, arguing the federal government has a vested interest in keeping Americans safe.

“The federal government has spent trillions of dollars to try and keep Americans alive during this pandemic,” Becerra said on CNN’s “New Day.” “So it is absolutely the government’s business, it is taxpayers’ business, if we have to continue to spend money to try and keep people from contracting COVID.”



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Yeah, just more conspiracy/tinfoil...


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