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Soldier_Citizen
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Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738
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http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=38.40.120so unless its the official wa MIlita aka our state national guard: http://washingtonstatemilitia.org/its illegal per state law, cause washington state only sees them as an organized militia
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| Tue May 13, 2014 9:15 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: spikedzombies wrote: ...........................
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB. This. Wa state law states "militia's" as being illegal. That being said, it's unconstitutional as fuck. PRIVATE militia's are illegal. I forget the RCW. On the other hand: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=38.04.030If you are part of for the WA military dept, state guard, national guard (etc) you are part of the "organized militia", otherwise you are part of the "unorganized militia". There are other RCW's and more in the WA constitution.
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TechnoWeenie
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_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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Soldier_Citizen
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Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738
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ANZAC wrote: Soldier_Citizen wrote: spikedzombies wrote: ...........................
1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB. This. Wa state law states "militia's" as being illegal. That being said, it's unconstitutional as fuck. PRIVATE militia's are illegal. I forget the RCW. On the other hand: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=38.04.030If you are part of for the WA military dept, state guard, national guard (etc) you are part of the "organized militia", otherwise you are part of the "unorganized militia". There are other RCW's and more in the WA constitution. check the post just above yours
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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Yeah, overlapping replies.
But we're all part of the unorganized WA militia. We can't be compelled to serve, but the governor can deploy us if the SHTF and the organized militia can't deal with it.
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Unicorn
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 Posts: 2397
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There are two organized militias in WA. The National Guard, and the WA State Guard.
The governor can also draft people into the state militias. A leftover from the old west days... the natives that thought about fighting to keep their land, and the Canadians who wanted to steal what we had already stolen.
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RENCORP
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We aren't gonna stop until we have all of the gold, silver, bacon, and quality beaver pelts carted back up to The Great White North, eh ?
BWAAAHH HAAH HAA HAA !
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mancat
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RENCORP wrote: S'okay. You all stole it, we're stealing it all back.
We're doing a pretty good job of infiltration, hostile takeover, and demoralization of the populace - ( Justin Bieber )
We aren't gonna stop until we have all of the gold, silver, bacon, and quality beaver pelts carted back up to The Great White North, eh ?
BWAAAHH HAAH HAA HAA ! that was Canada then this is Canada now 
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corpsman
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Looking the WACs and RCWs over, it appears there is no law against a militia. Locals can and do organize based on different criteria, not least of which is community security. What they can not do is parade., as an organized group, with arms, in public.... unless they are a veterans group (bona fide, whatever that is), nor can they use force to influence law abiding behavior... which the organized militia may not do as well. Even the state constitution law regarding 2A issues only states that:
"The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men."
Semantics are the key. It does not say organizing an armed body of men is unlawful, but rather, that this article of the state constitution "...but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." Carefully crafted so as not to violate the 2A (as understood in 1889). That passage arose from attempts by armed parties to impose their will on communities for control of commerce purposes prior to statehood. The reality is that numerous companies, corporations, communities and households maintain armed bodies of men, and draw no legal heat.
So, if a bunch of vets decide to set up a club, parade and drill with arms... it is legal.
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glockgirl
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RENCORP wrote: S'okay. You all stole it, we're stealing it all back.
We're doing a pretty good job of infiltration, hostile takeover, and demoralization of the populace - ( Justin Bieber )
We aren't gonna stop until we have all of the gold, silver, bacon, and quality beaver pelts carted back up to The Great White North, eh ?
BWAAAHH HAAH HAA HAA ! Don't forget the quiet, ongoing infiltration of the U.S. by way of Canadian women producing dual citizenship children by American men. All three of my boys have dual citizenship. *laughing her most evil laugh*
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Leatherneck
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bbuilderx wrote: Anyone here belong to the Washington state militia? I'm registered on the Washington State Militia website, but there's nothing in my area. I met up with a guy who says he wants to start something around here, but doesn't see the point in using or training with firearms. So in effect, he's starting up a neighborhood watch.
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Old Jim
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RENCORP wrote: S'okay. You all stole it, we're stealing it all back.
We're doing a pretty good job of infiltration, hostile takeover, and demoralization of the populace - ( Justin Bieber )
We aren't gonna stop until we have all of the gold, silver, bacon, and quality beaver pelts carted back up to The Great White North, eh ?
BWAAAHH HAAH HAA HAA ! Ren, Can you translate that for me....I don't speak Canadian
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BadKarma
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I know there are militias in Washington. They work in small teams and you are usually asked to join to fill a team. They usually only have contact to one other team and I heard of big events in Utah and NV once a year. Most train over by the coast but it usually depends on where the majority of team is located.
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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BadKarma wrote: I know there are militias in Washington. They work in small teams and you are usually asked to join to fill a team. They usually only have contact to one other team and I heard of big events in Utah and NV once a year. Most train over by the coast but it usually depends on where the majority of team is located. Hobart. Just saying.
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usrifle
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glockgirl wrote: RENCORP wrote: S'okay. You all stole it, we're stealing it all back.
We're doing a pretty good job of infiltration, hostile takeover, and demoralization of the populace - ( Justin Bieber )
We aren't gonna stop until we have all of the gold, silver, bacon, and quality beaver pelts carted back up to The Great White North, eh ?
BWAAAHH HAAH HAA HAA ! Don't forget the quiet, ongoing infiltration of the U.S. by way of Canadian women producing dual citizenship children by American men. All three of my boys have dual citizenship. *laughing her most evil laugh* Dual citizenship ?.....So they like Justin Bieber and bacon, I'm not worried.
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