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Site Supporter   Location: Lynwood Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 Posts: 3214 
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BadKarma wrote: I know there are militias in Washington. They work in small teams and you are usually asked to join to fill a team. They usually only have contact to one other team and I heard of big events in Utah and NV once a year. Most train over by the coast but it usually depends on where the majority of team is located.   Most that I know of you are asked to join and at least 1 member was known you for a wile . But all are different and they don't publicize their present and walk around saying "Hi Im in a Militia ." A lot of people that shoot in the mountains have more than likely see them shooting and just thought Hay there is a group of well armed guys that look like they know guns ....._________________ You can run but you will just die tired I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I fear no evil because I am the baddest MOTHER FUCKER in the valley |
| Wed May 14, 2014 7:50 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173 Real Name: Johnny 5
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Marine3%er wrote: " A lot of people that shoot in the mountains have more than likely see them shooting and just thought Hay there is a group of well armed guys that look like they know guns .....  What? Never happens...  _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Wed May 14, 2014 8:08 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738 Real Name: Mike
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corpsman wrote: So, if a bunch of vets decide to set up a club, parade and drill with arms... it is legal. they do, its called the VFW and the American Legion.  the rest of it, as several people I know see it, its a very fine, very grey line that can easily be construed to make people look VERY bad when standing infront of a judge. That being said, one must weigh if its worth the risk, or not, and to me, well I've made my decission  _________________ "No Quarter, No Mercy" mash_man wrote: #gangbangerlivesmatter |
| Wed May 14, 2014 9:29 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738 Real Name: Mike
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Marine3%er wrote: A lot of people that shoot in the mountains have more than likely see them shooting and just thought hey there is a group of well armed guys that look like they know guns ..... "and only one is a felon 28.5% of the time" _________________ "No Quarter, No Mercy" mash_man wrote: #gangbangerlivesmatter |
| Wed May 14, 2014 9:30 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Chesco, PA Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 Posts: 5937 Real Name: Herbert the Pervert
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 _________________ Tito Ortiz wrote: I train 6 days a week. 5 days a week I’ll train 3 days a week. One of those days I will train 2 days of the week. So 6 days a week I will train. |
| Wed May 14, 2014 9:32 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Lynwood Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 Posts: 3214
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Soldier_Citizen wrote: Marine3%er wrote: A lot of people that shoot in the mountains have more than likely see them shooting and just thought hey there is a group of well armed guys that look like they know guns ..... "and only one is a felon 28.5% of the time"   _________________ You can run but you will just die tired I walk through the valley of the shadow of death I fear no evil because I am the baddest MOTHER FUCKER in the valley |
| Thu May 15, 2014 5:32 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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Maybe we need to make "Member - Unorganized Militia of Washington" patches?
Last edited by ANZAC on Thu May 15, 2014 6:18 am, edited 1 time in total. |
| Thu May 15, 2014 6:11 am |
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 Location: Covington Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2014 Posts: 112
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MWUM? It could have a nice kissy lips logo with a bullet shooting out lol
"We're just organized enough to have this patch made" |
| Thu May 15, 2014 6:17 am |
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Site Supporter Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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B.Random wrote: MWUM? It could have a nice kissy lips logo with a bullet shooting out lol Eh, I changed it to MUMW. Check out these guys: http://southeastwashingtonmilitia.webs.com Click on requirements, I kind of like how they have it structured. I saw another place where they had the RCW # on a patch! (now that's obscure) You could also have "last line of defense" on the patch. I mean, basically that's what state law says: LEO's keeping the peace, then the organized militia, then the unorganized militia. "Unorganized Militia of Washington Member - RCW 38.04.030 The Last Line of Defense" |
| Thu May 15, 2014 6:24 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: N-Sno Joined: Thu Oct 3, 2013 Posts: 4015
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Eddie Dean wrote: Thank you, I was just getting ready to dig out an image for the Mulisha crew. _________________ "Hmmm. I've been looking for a way to serve the community that incorporates my violence." -- Leela |
| Thu May 15, 2014 8:01 am |
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corpsman wrote: Looking the WACs and RCWs over, it appears there is no law against a militia. Locals can and do organize based on different criteria, not least of which is community security. What they can not do is parade., as an organized group, with arms, in public.... unless they are a veterans group (bona fide, whatever that is), nor can they use force to influence law abiding behavior... which the organized militia may not do as well. Even the state constitution law regarding 2A issues only states that: "The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." Semantics are the key. It does not say organizing an armed body of men is unlawful, but rather, that this article of the state constitution "...but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." Carefully crafted so as not to violate the 2A (as understood in 1889). That passage arose from attempts by armed parties to impose their will on communities for control of commerce purposes prior to statehood. The reality is that numerous companies, corporations, communities and households maintain armed bodies of men, and draw no legal heat. So, if a bunch of vets decide to set up a club, parade and drill with arms... it is legal. If it were to have made that illegal, then armed guards wouldn't be legal under the RCW. Contract guards have to be licensed by the state, but I don't think in-house does. |
| Thu May 15, 2014 5:47 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: south 'merca Joined: Wed Jul 25, 2012 Posts: 9738 Real Name: Mike
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Unicorn wrote: corpsman wrote: Looking the WACs and RCWs over, it appears there is no law against a militia. Locals can and do organize based on different criteria, not least of which is community security. What they can not do is parade., as an organized group, with arms, in public.... unless they are a veterans group (bona fide, whatever that is), nor can they use force to influence law abiding behavior... which the organized militia may not do as well. Even the state constitution law regarding 2A issues only states that: "The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." Semantics are the key. It does not say organizing an armed body of men is unlawful, but rather, that this article of the state constitution "...but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men." Carefully crafted so as not to violate the 2A (as understood in 1889). That passage arose from attempts by armed parties to impose their will on communities for control of commerce purposes prior to statehood. The reality is that numerous companies, corporations, communities and households maintain armed bodies of men, and draw no legal heat. So, if a bunch of vets decide to set up a club, parade and drill with arms... it is legal. If it were to have made that illegal, then armed guards wouldn't be legal under the RCW. Contract guards have to be licensed by the state, but I don't think in-house does. Fairly certain in house security or "loss prevention" officers are also licensed. I could be wrong but I thought I saw something about it someplace |
| Thu May 15, 2014 7:07 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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I was looking at that last night, it is illegal for a private investigator or security guard to carry a firearm doing their job without being licensed.
That seems messed up. (You have to do the CJTC 1 day training and have the state license) |
| Fri May 16, 2014 6:45 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Lakewood, WA Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 Posts: 4025 Real Name: brad aka bubba
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ANZAC wrote: I was looking at that last night, it is illegal for a private investigator or security guard to carry a firearm doing their job without being licensed. That seems messed up. (You have to do the CJTC 1 day training and have the state license) Correct.. You have to have a state license to be a security guard either armed or unarmed. And even if you have your firearms endorsement and training 99% of the time your employer won't allow you to carry except on armed required sites. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk _________________ ALL MY FIREARMS WILL ONLY BE TRANSFERRED THROUGH I-5 Guns And Ammo (Lacey WA) |
| Fri May 16, 2014 6:54 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Shelton Joined: Sun Nov 17, 2013 Posts: 5860
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Where was it I read that
"militias AND OTHER HATE GROUPS on the internet had decreased by(x) percent" ??? |
| Fri May 16, 2014 10:08 am |
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