I got this in an email after I bought and 80% AR10 lower and found this interesting.
TO: Whom It May Concern FROM: Dimitrios Karras, CEO Ares Armor SUBJ: AB 1014, Gun Violence Restraining Orders DATE: June 1, 2014
I write this letter in absolute disgust at the state of affairs in our Country. I love my Country and I love my people. I love the freedoms we used to have; I love the liberties that we used to stand for.
Politicians in this country seem to think that they rule us, that they are our "leaders" as opposed to being our servants. In their opinion you are not to be trusted. You are not to make your own choices in life. They want to tell you what to eat, what to feel, what to think, they want to tell you how to live your life. They want you to turn on your fellow Americans and be divided.
No matter if the boot on your throat is the left foot or the right foot there is still a boot on your throat. Any who think that the Republican Party stand s for their rights need to do a little memory recall and think back to who brought us the Patriot Act. They are all guilty. They are all insidious.
Just as the Nazi programs that encouraged children to turn in their parents, we have a wonderful new piece of legislation that is going to be rammed down the throats of an unwilling people. AB 1014, introduced by Nancy Skinner in California, will make it so that anyone can take the rights of any other person away simply by filing an affidavit with the court. If your neighbor doesn't like you, all they have to do is go to the court house and fill out some paper work and you can kiss your second amendment and due process goodbye.
18101. (a) Any person may submit an application to the court, on a form designed by the Judicial Council, setting forth the facts and circumstances necessitating that a gun violence restraining order by issued. A gun violence restraining order shall be issued to prohibit a named person from possessing a firearm if an affidavit, signed by the applicant under oath, and any additional information provided to the court demonstrates, to the satisfaction of the court, the named person poses a significant risk of personal injury to himself or herself or others by possessing firearms.
The defense of ones person against an aggressor who comes to your home threatening you with violence is not only justified but is lawful. If this passes, it will pit law enforcement officers directly against law abiding citizens in a very dangerous way. I am begging you, for all of our sakes, please oppose this legislation. I have seen enough blood on the ground in my life. Please, do not let a "law" pass that will cause this sort of lethal conflict.
This "law" WILL cause kinetic engagements between law enforcement and law abiding citizens. It is of the utmost importance to stop this before blood spills. Dearest brothers and sisters, no more death! I implore you! No more. I do not want to see this in my own country. I am at wits end and am begging for you to really understand the implications of a law like this. Please. No more blood. No more blood.
Remember: Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
Long Live the Republic!
Dimitrios Karras, CEO Ares Armor
_________________ "I'm Hub McCann. I've fought in two World Wars and countless smaller ones on three continents. I led thousands of men into battle with everything from horses and swords to artillery and TANKS! I've seen the headwaters of the Nile, and tribes of natives no white man had ever seen before. I've won and lost a dozen fortunes, KILLED MANY MEN! And loved only one woman, with a passion a FLEA like you could never begin to understand. That's who I am. NOW, GO HOME, BOY!"
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". Albert Einstein 1947
Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:33 am
Massivedesign
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There were ample mechanisms in place to take further action (involuntary committal, firearm removal, etc.) if the police had decided this nutjob was unstable. How would yet another law have changed any of that?
Never mind, that's a rhetorical question.
To think it's possible to predict and prevent every incidence of insanity is...insanity.
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Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:06 am
AR15L
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There were ample mechanisms in place to take further action (involuntary committal, firearm removal, etc.) if the police had decided this nutjob was unstable. How would yet another law have changed any of that?
Never mind, that's a rhetorical question.
To think it's possible to predict and prevent every incidence of insanity is...insanity.
I've been holding off on making this comment since this crap started but here it is.
The police are police. They are not licensed psychologists or anything other than police. If they wanted to do it right, they would have brought a licensed Phd. with them. It's all about the resources.
Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:10 am
ANZAC
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You think getting one of these court orders is more or less difficult than what CA is doing?
Quote:
14 (ii) During any period of time that the person is subject to a 15 court order issued under chapter 7.90, 7.92, 9A.46, 10.14, 10.99, 16 26.09, 26.10, 26.26, or 26.50 RCW that: 17 (A) Was issued after a hearing of which the person received actual 18 notice, and at which the person had an opportunity to participate; 19 (B) Restrains the person from harassing, stalking, or threatening 20 an intimate partner of the person or child of the intimate partner or 21 person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate 22 partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child; 23 and 24 (C)(I) Includes a finding that the person represents a credible 25 threat to the physical safety of the intimate partner or child; and 26 (II) By its terms, explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or 27 threatened use of physical force against the intimate partner
The main difference I can see is that in WA, you are notified and can appear at the hearing, and in CA you have to go back to the court after it is issued to appeal it.
Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:28 pm
ANZAC
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There were ample mechanisms in place to take further action (involuntary committal, firearm removal, etc.) if the police had decided this nutjob was unstable. How would yet another law have changed any of that?
Never mind, that's a rhetorical question.
To think it's possible to predict and prevent every incidence of insanity is...insanity.
I've been holding off on making this comment since this crap started but here it is.
The police are police. They are not licensed psychologists or anything other than police. If they wanted to do it right, they would have brought a licensed Phd. with them. It's all about the resources.
They also didn't read any of his manifesto or watch any of his video, which his parents alerted them to. But they've been cleared of any "wrong doing".
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