If it only saves one life, huh?

Being diverted for a quick widow roll down isn't the same as being detained. Make sure you dont have anything that can lead to probable cause. As far as swabbing goes.... hell no. How do I know it's not gonna end up in a file somewhere...

I will admit, these have been in place in Oregon for years and have caught a bunch of DUI offenders. My issue is just like seeing someone OCing, driving a car, or walking down the street. If you stop them you must have RAS(Reasonable Articulable Suspicion). Not just "Well it is 3am and anyone driving down this specific highway/road/sidewalk should be stopped for "suspicion" of DUI. It is not right, not constitutional and I'm not for it. I do not believe all of us give up our rights afforded by the Constitution(and verified in the 4th Amendment) for the few who break the law(felons with guns, DUI, lack of insurance or driver license).

I don't want to see one person die due to DUI. I will not give up my rights to hunt them down.

Well this is bullshit. I've been through several through my travels and I'm sorry but fuck that. No you can't have my DNA, no you can't smell my breath. And I will only roll my window down a little bit.... Kiss my muther fucking ass

Random breath testing has been hugely successful in lowering road fatalities in Australia for 30 years, both directly and indirectly through the deterrent effect. It isn't optional. I never minded "blowing in the bag" (or later the pipe/BAC meter). The typical stop was typically less than 3 or 4 minutes, and a lot of times they'd ask me if I'd been drinking, and let me go without taking a BAC reading if I said "no" and didn't smell of booze, those stops would take all of a minute.

So, it probably comes as no surprise that I am fine with it.

Not sure about a swab though - although I guess my DNA is on file in enough places already.

For the life me, I have no idea how you can stand this country...

If it is just for survey purposes, the passengers should be able to get paid for it, too.

"Think of the children..."

You opened yourself up for that. I have no doubt that it reduced DUI, and if they set up shop at the bar then I would say there is probably suspicion. But random DUI check points fall outside RAS in my opinion. You say "If it saves one life it is worth it." while I say "Do not violate our rights afforded by the constitution for the actions of a few criminals."

+1000

I'll admit, I'm on the fence as to lean one way makes me a hypocrite, and the other an obstinate ass. Mind you, I haven't drove drunk, or anything over 1 beer since 1982, grew out of it at 19. There are more times than I could count that the local police would randomly pull me over in town, pour my booze in the street and take my keys until the next day, small town and everyone knew everybody. That went on from 16-19 years old until I went into the service.
Never hurt anyone but did manage to stuff my truck into a ditch a couple times, yes I got lucky.
I do not think some kind of a check point is all that bad but not this way. Something is better than nothing. I'd be all sorts of pissed the Fuck off if I need to be somewhere and I've got Johnny law up close and personal seeing if I've brushed my teeth with vodka. But, something has to be done as what we have now just isn't fucking working.
Sure, lock up habitually offending jerks, still doesn't solve the issues. Make more laws? Why, still won't fix the issue at hand.
There doesn't seem to be an easy fix that everyone one can be happy with but something more than what are doing now needs to be done.
Yes, we have our amendments to prevent from certain issues that affect our life and prevent undue/illegal hardships. On the other side of that same hand is our rights to not be taken out by someone driving blind ass fucking drunk.
Hopefully, someone smart will find that balance.

I'll give 'em a saliva "swab"...Hold out your hand.
Nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to gain DNA from as many Citizens as they can.
Oh wait...it's about drunk driver's?....Sure it is.

Sobriety checkpoints were ruled unconstitutional under WA law in Seattle v. Mesiani. I know there were efforts to allow them in recent years but hadn't heard that the law had actually been changed. I'm sure the "voluntary" and "survey" part of this is where they're hoping to find a loophole. Except using sworn LE who have now openly stated they'll be available to make arrests for DUI doesn't really jive with that.

Being conducted in Kitsap county... Hmm. My WSP neighbor works the route that this little thing will probably be set up on. That would be interesting.

Vee yust von to see jour paapers comrade!

By chance any of you CDL holders?

Ever been through a weigh station?

Ever thought about pulling the "you can't detain me" thing in a truck?

Just curious...