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Roadside checkpoints coming to WA
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WAGunRights
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Location: Kitsap County Joined: Sat Jun 9, 2012 Posts: 711
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Hell, at $60 a pop I'll drive around and find them.
10 times and you got a new Glock.
On the flip side, I see this as a huge violation... But the article does contradict it's self... It says they are not out to arrest anyone, they will call you a cab... Then says there will be LE on scene to process DUI cases... Which is it? Can't have it both ways...
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| Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:29 pm |
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usrifle
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dan360 wrote: usrifle wrote: dan360 wrote: By chance any of you CDL holders?
Ever been through a weigh station?
Ever thought about pulling the "you can't detain me" thing in a truck?
Just curious... CDL "A" with doubles, triples. Hazmat and Tanker. The weigh station is not even close to what this is about Dan. Not quite the same thing at all. ..and you don't mess around with the weigh station Trooper's.  Why is it different? They don't ask for a Saliva swab. The purpose of the "Stop" has more to do with your Employment (License,Paperwork, logbooks,Vehicle) than a violation of your "rights" in the name of "Homeland security and the children". I accepted the issue of Weigh stations when I got my license and endorsements. I didn't accept having my privacy and rights being violated by being an American and traveling when and where I want. That's the difference.
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| Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:33 pm |
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AR15L
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So everyone here that says "for $60, they'd do it". Really? You'd summit to the questionnaire and the saliva or blood test (DNA collecting)?
My privacy is worth more than $60.
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| Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:36 pm |
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MadPick
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acidfly wrote: stupid auto correct. who says thus instead of this. You know, there IS an edit function....
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| Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:41 pm |
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WAGunRights
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Location: Kitsap County Joined: Sat Jun 9, 2012 Posts: 711
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AR15L wrote: So everyone here that says "for $60, they'd do it". Really? You'd summit to the questionnaire and the saliva or blood test (DNA collecting)?
My privacy is worth more than $60. I was being facetious... But really anyone in the military in the last 10 years has their DNA on file already. Staff Writer/Photographer TheFirearmBlog.com Sent from Tapatalk
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 12:17 am |
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Schibles11
Location: Kent Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 Posts: 105
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hop on YouTube and search for checkpoints of this nature. You are likely to find a lot of dip s**** Hulu make really stupid choices but justify it for the right reasons. No one wants bad things to happen to others. No one wants a person to endanger others by breaking the law. That being said, justifying stops, seizures of property, thought crime, or any other unconstitutional practices is just plain wrong. if we installed a breathalyzer in every car standard in order for the vehicle to start that would cut down on DUI's tremendously. Granted there are ways around that. At the same time though you are sacrificing little bit of freedom at a time for security and safety. It is a dangerous world we live in, it is not the responsibility of law enforcement agencies or government officials to directly and soley provide for your safety. It is an individual self inherent right AND responsibility. LEO's are enablers and work as a deterrent by bringing those who violate laws to justice. it was the Declaration of Independence, not the declaration of interdependence. They cannot buy my compliance and they certainly cannot force it. "Some of the worst things in history were done with the best intentions..." Dr. Grant, Jurrasic Park III
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:54 am |
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deadshot2
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Captain90s wrote: deadshot2 wrote: Hmmm. Maybe I don't see these "Checkpoints" as all that sinister. If it only saves one life, huh?  Unfortunately we don't have a society that is totally smart. Way too many people think it's perfectly OK to operate motor vehicles while, for lack of a better term----Shitfaced. If that one life saved down the road by taking the "impaired" driver off the road could be mine or that of a family member, I have no issue with taking little more than the time it takes for a traffic light. That's MY opinion which may vary from YOUR opinion. That's life.
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CQBgopher
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usrifle wrote: dan360 wrote: usrifle wrote: dan360 wrote: By chance any of you CDL holders?
Ever been through a weigh station?
Ever thought about pulling the "you can't detain me" thing in a truck?
Just curious... CDL "A" with doubles, triples. Hazmat and Tanker. The weigh station is not even close to what this is about Dan. Not quite the same thing at all. ..and you don't mess around with the weigh station Trooper's.  Why is it different? They don't ask for a Saliva swab. The purpose of the "Stop" has more to do with your Employment (License,Paperwork, logbooks,Vehicle) than a violation of your "rights" in the name of "Homeland security and the children". I accepted the issue of Weigh stations when I got my license and endorsements. I didn't accept having my privacy and rights being violated by being an American and traveling when and where I want. That's the difference.
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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I won't stop. Period.
I wanna see how they justify being pulled over at gunpoint, tased, etc for not stopping at a 'voluntary checkpoint'..
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:35 am |
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CQBgopher
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TechnoWeenie wrote: I won't stop. Period.
I wanna see how they justify being pulled over at gunpoint, tased, etc for not stopping at a 'voluntary checkpoint'..
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olydemon
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WAGunRights wrote: Hell, at $60 a pop I'll drive around and find them.
10 times and you got a new Glock.
12 times and you got a Used Glock..... 
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:54 pm |
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WAGunRights
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Location: Kitsap County Joined: Sat Jun 9, 2012 Posts: 711
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olydemon wrote: WAGunRights wrote: Hell, at $60 a pop I'll drive around and find them.
10 times and you got a new Glock.
12 times and you got a Used Glock.....  Or a brick of .22 at today's prices... Staff Writer/Photographer TheFirearmBlog.com Sent from Tapatalk
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:03 pm |
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Marine3%er
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Location: Lynwood Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2012 Posts: 3214
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deadshot2 wrote: Captain90s wrote: deadshot2 wrote: Hmmm. Maybe I don't see these "Checkpoints" as all that sinister. If it only saves one life, huh?  Unfortunately we don't have a society that is totally smart. Way too many people think it's perfectly OK to operate motor vehicles while, for lack of a better term----Shitfaced. If that one life saved down the road by taking the "impaired" driver off the road could be mine or that of a family member, I have no issue with taking little more than the time it takes for a traffic light. That's MY opinion which may vary from YOUR opinion. That's life. if its ok to stop people for no reason is it ok for them to go house to house and come in your home ? Maybe you have something in there that you shouldn't ? But to be safe we should just check right ?
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angryfatcat
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Location: Seattle Joined: Wed Jul 4, 2012 Posts: 272
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wait, you mean like Boston, where the new Seattle Chief of police hails from? Marine3%er wrote: deadshot2 wrote: Captain90s wrote: deadshot2 wrote: Hmmm. Maybe I don't see these "Checkpoints" as all that sinister. If it only saves one life, huh?  Unfortunately we don't have a society that is totally smart. Way too many people think it's perfectly OK to operate motor vehicles while, for lack of a better term----Shitfaced. If that one life saved down the road by taking the "impaired" driver off the road could be mine or that of a family member, I have no issue with taking little more than the time it takes for a traffic light. That's MY opinion which may vary from YOUR opinion. That's life. if its ok to stop people for no reason is it ok for them to go house to house and come in your home ? Maybe you have something in there that you shouldn't ? But to be safe we should just check right ?
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| Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:27 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19173
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angryfatcat wrote: wait, you mean like Boston, where the new Seattle Chief of police hails from? Marine3%er wrote: deadshot2 wrote: Captain90s wrote: [quote="deadshot2"]Hmmm. Maybe I don't see these "Checkpoints" as all that sinister. If it only saves one life, huh?  Unfortunately we don't have a society that is totally smart. Way too many people think it's perfectly OK to operate motor vehicles while, for lack of a better term----Shitfaced. If that one life saved down the road by taking the "impaired" driver off the road could be mine or that of a family member, I have no issue with taking little more than the time it takes for a traffic light. That's MY opinion which may vary from YOUR opinion. That's life. if its ok to stop people for no reason is it ok for them to go house to house and come in your home ? Maybe you have something in there that you shouldn't ? But to be safe we should just check right ? [/quote] I think they fail to realize that we the people outgun them....considerably.. Or maybe they do realize it....which is why they 'need' MRAPs... If they lost 1 or 2 men on every 10th door they kicked in, they'd give up real quick. Sent from my Atari 2600
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