so we all know the reason behind most mass shootings..

Mentally ill people being able to get a hold of firearms. Unless its gang related than its just stupid people getting firearms illegally or its plain murder because well even murderer's are a little unstable. UCSB, SPU, Sandy Hook, Colorado... Too many

Now I believe in EVERYONE'S 2A Rights.. BUT

Well all agree something has to be done about the ability for the mentally unstable who have been treated, are being treated, are on meds, substance abuse or other mental problems from getting guns legally..



* We all know Universal Background checks wont stop people from selling/obtaining weapons.
* We all know that banning high capacity magazines wont stop people from obtaining them that are already out there
* We all know banning assault weapons wont stop people from getting one
* We all know nothing can stop anyone from obtaining a weapon from on the street..

But we should be able to do something about people who are on anti depressants, anti psychotics and other drugs/substances from legally obtaining a firearm..

But again.. a lot of good that did the police who interviewed Elliot Rogers before his rampage.

IS a mental health registry thats connected to the NICS a way to go? I dont know anymore.. im just tired of it..

/Flame On

I agree with your sentiment, but the problem is, who fills the database, and what is their agenda? Would you like folks like Eric Holder to make the determination at will? How about Jeh Johnson? Seems it sorta turns into a circular firing squad from our perspective. A real solution is a bit elusive. There are a lot of moving parts in each of these disastrous occurrences, each with similarities, but not enough commonality to formulate a good blanket solution.

If it isn't guns, they will find something else if they are bent on destruction. I do however feel that the drugs may be part of the problem, but you can never get real info on what the Docs had em amped up on. JMHO

Sounds good until the powers at be decide that their political opponents are obviously "mentally unstable". I'd also be concerned that every combat vet that went to see a shrink when they got home will be put on some kind of "list" and not be able to get guns. Heck, I can tell you right now that if they do something like this it will massively discourage people seeking help at all. There could be an epic fail backfire effect. In that kind of world I wouldn't go see a shrink even if I was seeing pink elephants AND dead people!

This is still a problem even when guns aren't involved. I have a family relation that has mental issues and a history of drug use. Her parents haven't been able to get her the help she really needs. They can't get her committed, she can check herself out. What can you do?

You hit the nail on the head with that point. I have known a lot of situations just like that over the years. One recently with a friend of mine whose wife had some drug abuse and other issues. His hands were pretty much tied also. This kid in CA was the same kind of thing if I remember correctly. He is OK, case solved. It is really hard to come up with a fix when the players in authority can't be trusted, nor do they seem to act on the obvious or in good faith. This is the poster child for the 1970's catch 22. Hope things work out with your thing, I know it is not easy.

Personally I'm thinking that the minute a dr prescribes meds for mental issues you gotta get cleared to own a gun.
Medical issues are the largest (bar none) of the wack jobs who targeted unarmed people.
I'll bet he was even a democrat thinking he was "entitled" to more...
Sadly we need to address the mentally ill... They are the problems, not the guns................."

Go all the way.
New directive: "All doctors, (capable of writing prescriptions), shall inform .gov, aka Obamacare, of the name of drug, amount and patients name to be cross referenced with all weapon license data bases."

I know your kidding. But, I am putting the popcorn in the microwave as we speak.

One word:

HIPAA

i totally understand that Mike

Democrats and the mentally ill... That's all I saying.......................

fixd

Another problem I see is the antis get their way, the mere desire to own a gun is a sign of mental instability. Another catch 22. Every time I go to Cabelas the voices in my head get louder, and louder as I approach the gun counter. Since I live accross the street from Cabalas, you wouldn't believe the dream I have

Wouldn't cover:
- Patients not prescribed drugs because of therapist mis-diagnosis
- Patients not prescribed drugs because of therapist qualifications (e.g., social workers can't prescribe in most states)
- Those who have not sought treatment (commonplace among young men).

Nevertheless, it's better than most ideas I've heard.

HIPAA can be amended to address a new law, so that's not a problem.