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2 Cops shot in Vegas Pizza shop.
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ANZAC
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XDM9cWA wrote: this would be an interesting chain of events if it turns out to be accurate (probably is) An armed concealed carry civilian stepped in and shot of the gunmen. The two shooters, a man and a woman, then went behind the store and killed themselves. Police believe it was a suicide pact. http://buzzpo.com/breaking-armed-cc-civ ... ing-vegas/also something else to think about CiCi’s has a no gun policy.(According to a store manager in Charlotte, NC)Some news outlets are reporting the CC civilian was killed.
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| Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:00 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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ANZAC wrote: XDM9cWA wrote: this would be an interesting chain of events if it turns out to be accurate (probably is) An armed concealed carry civilian stepped in and shot of the gunmen. The two shooters, a man and a woman, then went behind the store and killed themselves. Police believe it was a suicide pact. http://buzzpo.com/breaking-armed-cc-civ ... ing-vegas/also something else to think about CiCi’s has a no gun policy.(According to a store manager in Charlotte, NC)Some news outlets are reporting the CC civilian was killed. Well, as sad as that may be.... he/she surely made the douchebags change their mind about going in guns blazing. They decided to off themselves instead. Sent from my Atari 2600
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ANZAC
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OK, now it sounds like the CC guy was not injured but they shot someone else. THIS is really going to help things: Quote: The shooters then stripped the officers of their weapons and ammunition and badges, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. They then covered the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me.” http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-v ... ill-police
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TechnoWeenie
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ANZAC wrote: OK, now it sounds like the CC guy was not injured but they shot someone else. THIS is really going to help things: Quote: The shooters then stripped the officers of their weapons and ammunition and badges, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. They then covered the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me.” http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-v ... ill-policeSounds like a false flag operation. Really? Starts yelling about a revolution....kills a couple of random people...then pops themselves in the head? Sent from my Atari 2600
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XDM9cWA
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TechnoWeenie wrote: ANZAC wrote: OK, now it sounds like the CC guy was not injured but they shot someone else. THIS is really going to help things: Quote: The shooters then stripped the officers of their weapons and ammunition and badges, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. They then covered the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me.” http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-v ... ill-policeSounds like a false flag operation. I highly doubt that,. unless you are seeing something I'm not... just some crazies who spend too much time on internet conspirary theories.. I wonder which forum they belonged to.. I'm sure they were on one somewhere... I drove through las vegas monday.. I almost contemplated applying for a NV ccw.. maybe next time around I will.. had signed up for the class and all but decided I'd do it another time.. I'm sure we'll hear more about these guys soon enough.
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| Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:23 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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XDM9cWA wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote: ANZAC wrote: OK, now it sounds like the CC guy was not injured but they shot someone else. THIS is really going to help things: Quote: The shooters then stripped the officers of their weapons and ammunition and badges, according to a law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. They then covered the officers with something that featured the Gadsden flag, a yellow banner with a coiled snake above the words, “Don’t tread on Me.” http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-v ... ill-policeSounds like a false flag operation. I highly doubt that,. unless you are seeing something I'm not... just some crazies who spend too much time on internet conspirary theories.. I wonder which forum they belonged to.. I'm sure they were on one somewhere... I drove through las vegas monday.. I almost contemplated applying for a NV ccw.. maybe next time around I will.. had signed up for the class and all but decided I'd do it another time.. I'm sure we'll hear more about these guys soon enough. This too...could be a bunch of fucking whackos.... But how often are they in pairs, and a female no less? Sent from my Atari 2600
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XDM9cWA
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TechnoWeenie wrote:
This too...could be a bunch of fucking whackos....
But how often are they in pairs, and a female no less?
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actually the fact they are in pairs, makes it more likely to be an extremist group... vs a false flag in my opinion... but who knows.. the female appears to have been running the show as she shot the other male first indicating that she was in charge... and she was doing the shooting of the officers.. crazy does not care about gender...
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| Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:34 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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XDM9cWA wrote: TechnoWeenie wrote:
This too...could be a bunch of fucking whackos....
But how often are they in pairs, and a female no less?
Sent from my Atari 2600
actually the fact they are in pairs, makes it more likely to be an extremist group... vs a false flag in my opinion... but who knows.. the female appears to have been running the show as she shot the other male first indicating that she was in charge... and she was doing the shooting of the officers.. crazy does not care about gender... Yup. That shot in the back of the head is such a bitch move. Pisses me off.. Sent from my Atari 2600
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XDM9cWA
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http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/ju ... un-wal-ma/more updates.. apparently there was no CCW involved...
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ANZAC
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XDM9cWA wrote: http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2014/jun/08/two-officers-shot-cicis-nellis-suspects-run-wal-ma/
more updates.. apparently there was no CCW involved... The presser I just watched mentioned cops coming into both the front and back of Walmart and exchanging fire with the dirtbags. Maybe bystanders though the cops firing from the back were citizens. Awful news about the cops - sucky kind of job when you have a target painted on you 24/7.
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According to the source they had tons of nazi memorabilia and swastikas in their apt
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BadKarma
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/india ... ack-courtsQuote: Jerad Dwain Miller appears to have a criminal history in Washington dating back to 2002.
Benton County, Wash., District Court records show he was convicted of obstructing a public officer and DUI in August 2002. Earlier that year, in April he was found guilty of assault with intent to cause injury.
In June 2001, he was convicted of third-degree malicious mischief. In February 2001 he was convicted of third-degree theft. In 2000, he was convicted of third-degree malicious mischief.
In 2001, he was convicted in Benton County Superior Court of taking a motor vehicle without permission and harassment.
An apparent relative of Jerad Miller with an address in Richland, Wash., did not answer calls Monday.
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glockgirl
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The civilian shot and killed by the female half of the couple, Joseph Wilcox, did indeed draw on the male half of the couple, who entered the Wal-Mart ahead of his wife. http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article ... 538256.php
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MadPick
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BadKarma wrote: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/indiana-couple-who-killed-las-vegas-police-also-had-plans-attack-courts Quote: Jerad Dwain Miller appears to have a criminal history in Washington dating back to 2002.
Benton County, Wash., District Court records show he was convicted of obstructing a public officer and DUI in August 2002. Earlier that year, in April he was found guilty of assault with intent to cause injury.
In June 2001, he was convicted of third-degree malicious mischief. In February 2001 he was convicted of third-degree theft. In 2000, he was convicted of third-degree malicious mischief.
In 2001, he was convicted in Benton County Superior Court of taking a motor vehicle without permission and harassment.
An apparent relative of Jerad Miller with an address in Richland, Wash., did not answer calls Monday. Wow . . . at which point can we just put someone like that to sleep?! Kudos to Joseph Wilcox for laying his own life on the line to try to stop them. No doubt he at least slowed them down a little. On another note, there seems to be a clear agenda in that articule to villianize the Bundy ranch crowd; regardless of how you feel about the ranch drama, it certainly doesn't seem to have a clear relationship to this story of two dirtbags in Vegas.
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MadPick wrote: Kudos to Joseph Wilcox for laying his own life on the line to try to stop them. No doubt he at least slowed them down a little. He may have also convinced them to go straight to the back and wait for police -- whose tactics usually have some level of predictability about them -- rather than take the risk of engaging anyone else in the store. The couple's actions smack of wanting to control how everything played out, and random armed patrons are a real fly in that particular ointment. Mr. Wilcox may have saved many others from harm that day. 
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