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WaJim
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Location: Tacoma Wa Joined: Tue Oct 8, 2013 Posts: 16607
Real Name: George Bailey
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Hey, did anyone read my post?????
The bug is out....NO?????
How'd you feel if you were a passenger on the Cleveland to Dallas flight a few days ago. Or the passenger that took her seat after she deplaned? You think they sprayed Clorox and de-fraged the inside of that plane??? Highly doubtful.
These dipshits are gonna have to get their asses in gear...this bad bug is spreading.
Like 'F' the flights from Africa.....how they going to contain this this little bastard in the CONUS.
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T. Jefferson "....the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. it is it's natural manure"
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174
Real Name: Johnny 5
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kf7mjf wrote: Two people out out three hundred some odd million in this country come down with a disease, and everybody loses their shit... Meanwhile over one hundred die per day in car wrecks and nobody blinks. We need to require registration and training before we let people use one of those death machines. That way we can save children.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174
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And this.....is how things start.... Thank you globalization .....
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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RENCORP
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Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009
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I'm not worried. On the proper dietary regimen, I can produce a highly toxic gas that kills damm near everything on contact.
At least, that is what the wife says.
So, smelly, but safe.
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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lamrith wrote: Plus the onset of symptoms for Ebola from what I am seeing ranges from 2days to three weeks with death 6 to 16days after onset of symptoms, so we have a about a month to wait and see if any other patients show up with symptoms to know for sure. The weeks ahead will tell us just how much exposure there may have been. Hopefully everyone in that waiting room on Sept28th and since is being tested for infection. IIRC it can only be transmitted when you are exhibiting symptoms. It sounds like both of these health care workers were caught relatively early (fever).
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| Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:00 am |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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I have a suggestion to the CDC: require that any hospital employee involved in the treatment of Ebola patients not travel by air for 14 days after treating said patient.
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| Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:03 am |
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glockgirl
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Location: Bellevue Joined: Tue Aug 6, 2013 Posts: 4895
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ANZAC wrote: I am sure the CDC will just blame the 2nd worker. Because the process, procedure and protocol is fine. These people just breached it, right? Um, did you read my most recent post? I said that it now appears that Texas Presbyterian had a very sloppy isolation protocol in place to begin with, and it also appears that they failed to provide attending staff with appropriate PPE gear for treating ANY patient in isolation. How they've gotten away with this for presumably years, I don't know, but again, hospitals aren't required to report nosocomial infections. So no, the "process, procedure, and protocol" at Texas Presbyterian was/is not "just fine". So whether Ms. Phan and now this second nurse accidentally breached PPE removal protocol, or they weren't provided with appropriate PPE equipment to treat a patient in isolation in the first place, doesn't really matter to me in light of the failure to provide appropriate PPE gear. Texas Presbyterian fucked up, and probably has been fucking up for years--generally, a patient is put in isolation to prevent disease transmission to other patients, the protection of attending staff just a side benefit of preventing the aforementioned transmission of disease. I am sure that the initial assumption by the CDC--and initial reassurances by Texas Presbyterian administrators looking to cover their asses--was that Texas Presbyterian did in fact have a standard isolation protocol in place, and that staff were being provided with sufficient PPE gear to follow the protocol. Somebody(ies) at Texas Presbyterian lied, and lied big time. Still, Ebola is not a super virus, CDC teams are on the ground in Dallas now, and I am still confident that this will be well-contained.
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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glockgirl wrote: I am sure that the initial assumption by the CDC- Thank you for making my point. The CDC assumed she made a mistake removing the PPE. Rather than considering she didn't have the right PPE or training in the first place. Now it is clear there is some kind of systemic problem there. That needs to be corrected. Assuming that she just made a mistake was not a good assumption. Occam's razor etc.
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| Wed Oct 15, 2014 8:11 am |
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mcyclonegt
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Location: West Olympia Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 Posts: 6852
Real Name: Matt
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I have ADD, its not my fault.
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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Welcome to about 10 posts ago.
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CQBgopher
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Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8438
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People are getting dumber by the day.
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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And the blame of the health care workers by the CDC continues: "Even though the nurse did not report having a fever until Tuesday, the day after she returned home, she should not have boarded a commercial airliner after learning that another nurse, Nina Pham, had been diagnosed with Ebola, government officials said Wednesday." http://www.komonews.com/news/national/E ... 75332.htmlNow the CDC is actually doing something: (several days late, dollar short) Quote: CDC Director Tom Frieden said no one else involved in Duncan's care will be allowed to travel "other than in a controlled environment."
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026
Real Name: Steve
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_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr.
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CQBgopher
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Location: WA/MT Joined: Thu Sep 6, 2012 Posts: 8438
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ANZAC wrote: And the blame of the health care workers by the CDC continues: "Even though the nurse did not report having a fever until Tuesday, the day after she returned home, she should not have boarded a commercial airliner after learning that another nurse, Nina Pham, had been diagnosed with Ebola, government officials said Wednesday." http://www.komonews.com/news/national/E ... 75332.htmlNow the CDC is actually doing something: (several days late, dollar short) Quote: CDC Director Tom Frieden said no one else involved in Duncan's care will be allowed to travel "other than in a controlled environment." Well, that *would* show a little sense of responsibility....you know, that little thing that has vanished in this society of individualist selfish entitlement. The CDC deals with stuff like Ebola daily....to them, common sense is actually common. Apologies on their behalf if they seem a little short with retards.
_________________ "Well, nobody's perfect." ― Osgood Fielding III WTB factory ammo 250 Savage (250-3000) any 375 H&H any 7x57 (7mm Mauser, 275 Rigby) 175's preferred
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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dan360 wrote: ANZAC wrote: And the blame of the health care workers by the CDC continues: "Even though the nurse did not report having a fever until Tuesday, the day after she returned home, she should not have boarded a commercial airliner after learning that another nurse, Nina Pham, had been diagnosed with Ebola, government officials said Wednesday." http://www.komonews.com/news/national/E ... 75332.htmlNow the CDC is actually doing something: (several days late, dollar short) Quote: CDC Director Tom Frieden said no one else involved in Duncan's care will be allowed to travel "other than in a controlled environment." Well, that *would* show a little sense of responsibility....you know, that little thing that has vanished in this society of individualist selfish entitlement. The CDC deals with stuff like Ebola daily....to them, common sense is actually common. Apologies on their behalf if they seem a little short with retards. The CDC said they were "very surprised" when the first nurse was infected. Why would they expect other workers not to travel when they said there was little risk of anyone else being infected? The CDC has demonstrated incompetence every step of the way so far. Just look at some of the things they have said.
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