Nope still blame the person. Getting drunk is "victimless" unless said drunk gets behind the wheel and kills someone, we don't blame the alcohol, nor am I blaming drugs, but at that point it is no longer "victimless" just as abuse/neglect by an alcoholic is the same as if it was done by a drug user, just like theft by an alcoholic or a druggie is not victimless

Lest not forget, the extremely sharp increase in theft, minors included, of liquor theft in grocery stores etc now that it's legal to sell there.
Convenient to buy while picking up milk yes, but was it smart??? California did it so it must work, right?

Stats? Taint got any. One, state still working on program to mandate reporting and retailers unprepared for the sudden and constant theft.

Some things should be illegal and managed.

That's what the left says about guns

I think it's possible to simultaneously be against enabling substance abusers while being for the fiscal and social benefits of needle exchange programs. I don't like people shooting up meth or heroin any more than the next guy, and I especially don't like that junkies are beneficiaries of my hard-earned tax dollars as a result of their irresponsible behavior. But I'm even more opposed to many more of my tax dollars being spent treating junkies with infectious diseases that spread because their paraphernilia has an unnecessarily high rate of contamination. (Insert sidenote: a previous poster can fuck off with his elitist taxpayer right to complain bullshit). Intravenous drug use is one of those problems that has no perfect solution. People can and will continue to exercise their freedom to fuck their lives up with substance abuse, and that's not going to change. We might as well pick the lesser (and cheaper) of two evils and at least try to reduce the transmission of disease. With the way healthcare costs are going, we should be thankful that the taxpayer bill for sterile needles is so (relatively) low.

^ what this guy said

Yep.

Odd. I'm largely agreeing with you.

I'm waiting

As long as you don't get baked and get behind the wheel your good. How many potheads you know that do what metheads do to get their fix?

Every pothead I have known gets baked, each nachos(or Taco Bell) watches half baked and takes a nap. Methheads or heroin addicts.... Well we know what they do

Yep, we've got an epidemic on our hands.


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As has Wyoming. Decades ago. It's not the policy that is the problem---it's the idiots who live in certain places that's the problem.

Drive thru liquor stores are great.

Needle exchange programmes have been in place for years. As someone else said, it is far less expensive to trade dirty needles (many times used many times over, in some cases) for clean needles than it is to treat the assorted bloodborne diseases and abscesses that progress to osteonecrosis and worse that land addicts in hospitals--where we, the taxpayers, pick up the bills, sometimes running into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

You don't have to like it, but it is the humane thing to do.

It has nothing to do with being "humane". Like it was previously stated its the lesser evil, even though I still don't agree with giving them needles. How about if you want your needles this week then you enter a program where will help you BREAK the habit and I will give you less needles as the program goes on. They could even WORK for the needles.....There are lots of leaves this time of year that need raking up....Lots of trash on the highways.....I am only talking about the homeless needle users...

I've read that an effective means of reducing use is giving the option for addiction treatment instead of jail.

Treat it as a health problem instead of a criminal problem, because treating it as a criminal problem doesn't really seem to be working.

Maybe puyallup should hand out free needles and sharps boxes?? I took a pic but it's too big bit there were 3 used needles in a parking spot at sonic.