I have ocean front property in Wyoming for sale.

so they bringing the hanging back?



clearly watching that and other feeds, hands never reached his pockets or front side, they know they goofed, they see him run, quickly turn then, oh shit instead.



If language was a factor, better learn english this is america. If I was in italy and a Carabinieri said alt you think im gonna keep running, not with a fucking uzi on me.

They need to bring back the night stick ( billy club) and sap gloves. . When cops used them back in the day to bust heads, nobody bitched but the bad guy.

Tasers don't work on everyone. clubs do.

So I finally got to view the video once I got home.

I guess you shouldn't attack police with rocks in Pasco. Sucks to be him.

Is it "growth" if none of the newcomers are actual legal residents of the United States of America?

Don't know......maybe, just maybe if we held the public to the same standards everyone wants the police to be held to, it'll be a better world.

Until that time comes, I think I'll just keep my blood inside my own body by not doing stupid shit that would lead to my ass being beat, or ventilated.

Haven't watched the video. Good or bad shoot is another subject.
Some dumb bastard putting himself in a dangerous situation, congratulations fuck head, hopefully you didn't breed before death.

No kidding cmika....And that Uzi is firing.

Gunfire is an international language.

What would make a man run across the street after the first volley from the police????

I would hope that if the police were firing at me I'd hit the deck and not run....unless it was for close cover.



The other question I have is what went down before the video starts.....

Not that that changes anything.

I don't know if the law is still on the books, but we used to have a "fleeing felon" law that allowed the use of deadly force, if the LEO could articulate that the public was in grave danger if this person is allowed to escape.

Not sure if that would apply to a rock throwing immigrant.......

I have all the answers..

#1 dont throw rocks at cops
#2 dont run from cops
#3 dont run from cops
#4.. when being chased by cops dont be a moron and turn around towards them and immediately grab at your waist area for any reason..



Overall ..

DONT BE A FUCKING MORON

What would make a man run across the street after the first volley from the police????

I would hope that if the police were firing at me I'd hit the deck and not run....unless it was for close cover.

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If he was hit on the first volley, a less rational, but quite natural response might just be to RUN! (fight or flight). At the point he stopped by the wall, his wild gesticulations are more difficult to explain.

Maybe he got winged and was checking to make sure his insides weren't falling out? Hard to say until the investigation is made public.



Kind of what I was thinking.


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There were 2 shootings, not one.

Taser was ineffective and he was RUNNING AWAY when first volley was fired..... Second fatal volley was when he stopped and turned around.

So, if being high and running from the cops is enough to get shot in the back... well....


They don't have to justify JUST the fatal shooting, they have to justify why the shot at a man running away, AND why they shot a man as it appeared that he was surrendering, and clearly had nothing in his hands.


The 'he was reaching' won't fly very far, as the shots weren't fired until AFTER his hands were clearly visible.

and...as I said.. bet $$$ it was the same officer that fired first, both times. ....

Yes, being high and throwing rocks is dumb, and can be dangerous, but the danger had passed and they were attempting to subdue him, he essentially got at shot at the first time for resisting arrest (running away), and the second time because the officers apparently wanted to end it and couldn't bother looking at hands, which is what they're supposedly trained to do.

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I'm not certain what video you're watching but I didn't interpret "surrendering" at any point during the video I watched. The only time he showed his hands was in preparation to dispense another rock. His entire retreat he was gesturing that he was going to throw another rock.

Were the police justified? I don't know, I wasn't there. I'm sure not going to armchair quarterback an incident I have so very little information about.

I told my 15 year old son, as part of his ongoing life education, "Don't ever throw rocks at police or run away from them." Ryan's response, "Duh, don't do that unless you want to get shot."

My 18 year old passed this test as well after he got home from work. "What might happen if you throw rocks at police?"

"You'll either get tazed, shot, or both."

Life lessons successful.


Move on.

I see a man tearing out barbs, and as the fatal shots come, I see empty hands that don't come above chest level, as if to throw something, and leaning forward..

Why would a man put his arms out and lean forward? To get on the ground?

Unless, leaning towards while putting your arms out is 'He's comin' right for me!'.... In which case, shoot anyone who is about to surrender...

Again, the lines between moral and legal don't always meet. Will it be 'legally' justified? I have no doubt, Foxes watching the henhouse.

Was it MORAL? I'd say no. Was deadly force necessary? Again, I'd say no.

We have officers trained to 'go home at the end of the night, no matter what', and 'anyone can kill you', with training like that, it's no surprise that an 'us vs them' mentality pervades that occupation, and immoral/unjustified deadly force incidents continue to increase in number.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

When will we acknowledge that having police investigate themselves doesn't work..

That's no different than me shooting someone, and having my mom be the person to decide if I was justified or not, while facing a lawsuit over not raising me properly if she said I acted improperly.

OF COURSE they're gonna protect their ass and say it was justifiable.