The 'net is now neutered - FCC adopts new regs today

[XDM9cWA]

2. Make no mistake. This wasn't the people vs big business. This was content providers vs pipeline providers. Content providers won, and government gets to centralize the Internet. Which will likely have a whole host of unintended consequences.

It was pipeline providers vs consumers, and apparently consumers won.
It might have also been pipeline providers vs content providers, we don't know if that is in the legislation. If it is, then content providers also won.

This isn't going to centralize the internet. That's not technically possible because the internet is a mesh, not a star. The internet can't work as a star.

So what you're telling me is Amazon, Netflix, or any other content providers are not benefiting from this financially?

Not netflix, as they already paid for it... the rest wont benefit directly in that they dont gain anything or lose anything from what the business is today...

longterm they will benefit as they can continue business without threat of a bully cutting their pipeline...

[DocNugent]

And . . .
another skeptic weighs in.

[snozzberries]

2. Make no mistake. This wasn't the people vs big business. This was content providers vs pipeline providers. Content providers won, and government gets to centralize the Internet. Which will likely have a whole host of unintended consequences.

It was pipeline providers vs consumers, and apparently consumers won.
It might have also been pipeline providers vs content providers, we don't know if that is in the legislation. If it is, then content providers also won.

This isn't going to centralize the internet. That's not technically possible because the internet is a mesh, not a star. The internet can't work as a star.

So what you're telling me is Amazon, Netflix, or any other content providers are not benefiting from this financially?

They benefit financially the same way a store owner does when the mob is arrested and they no longer have to pay extortion/protection money.

[WaJim]

The Fed is a government chartered and regulated central bank. It actually does it's job fairly well.

Umkay.....

One small problem.

Banks dont print their own money to pay their bills.

The proprietors of a Bank that did that would find themselves in prison.




Sooooooo, definitely NOT a bank.

[snozzberries]

And . . .
another skeptic weighs in.

They didn't just "take over the internet" any more than enforcing the rules of gun safety is a takeover of gun rights."but I have a right to point my guns at people and shoot rounds off into the air."

[XDM9cWA]

And . . .
another skeptic weighs in.

They didn't just "take over the internet" any more than enforcing the rules of gun safety is a takeover of gun rights."but I have a right to point my guns at people and shoot rounds off into the air."

well technically in a free society, you should be able to do that... just as much as the other guy is free to actually shoot a round into your chest for doing so...

some here would like anarchy vs rule of law, some of us are willing to find a middle ground close to the status quo....

but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

[DocNugent]

...but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

I agree.

Am I correct to presume you can't prove him wrong?

[WaJim]

And . . .
another skeptic weighs in.

His statement isnt true.....

The government didnt build the shitty website..its actually worse than that.

The statement should read ......

The Government that couldnt find a competent company to build its Health Care website just took over the Internet.

The Gvt didnt build shit...

IIRC it was a Canadian Buisness Clinton Butt Buddy (Joe Biden term) that built the site for an astronomical ammount of money like $500 million.

[TechnoWeenie]

So, are tiered data plans from cellular carriers next?

[DocNugent]

. . . The government didnt build the shitty website..its actually worse than that.

The statement should read ......

The Government that couldnt find a competent company to build its Health Care website just took over the Internet.

The Gvt didnt build shit...

True dat, but I think Thor's statement is also true - the government couldn't build its Health Care website (so it subcontracted the work out as you indicated).

[XDM9cWA]

...but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

I agree.

Am I correct to presume you can't prove him wrong?

what's to prove wrong?

so the govt can't build roads, bridges, airports? How about private sector... how many fails?

they don't have satellites or rockets that reach the skies?

yeah.. govt has accomplished nothing... SUUURRRE....

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[XDM9cWA]

. . . The government didnt build the shitty website..its actually worse than that.

The statement should read ......

The Government that couldnt find a competent company to build its Health Care website just took over the Internet.

The Gvt didnt build shit...

True dat, but I think Thor's statement is also true - the government couldn't build its Health Care website (so it subcontracted the work out as you indicated).

it built a website... it has one.. whether it works well is another story... the statement is false because it assumes there is no website that was built...FAIL

english language is simple.. what is said is what it means... --- can't build a website means didn't build one NADA... so is there a website or isn't there

in case you're not sure

https://www.healthcare.gov

[DocNugent]

...but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

I agree.

Am I correct to presume you can't prove him wrong?

what's to prove wrong? sorry not biting into one of your silly drawn out arguments... believe what you want to believe

so the govt can't build roads, bridges, airports? How about private sector... how many fails?

they don't have satellites or rockets that reach the skies?

yeah.. govt has accomplished nothing... SUUURRRE....

Aren't all your examples things that governments hired private contractors to build?

[snozzberries]

...but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

I agree.

Am I correct to presume you can't prove him wrong?

I have a whistle that keeps away dinosaurs. Prove me wrong.

[XDM9cWA]

...but again, let's just be sensationalistic, it makes for better news like the picture above

I agree.

Am I correct to presume you can't prove him wrong?

what's to prove wrong? sorry not biting into one of your silly drawn out arguments... believe what you want to believe

so the govt can't build roads, bridges, airports? How about private sector... how many fails?

they don't have satellites or rockets that reach the skies?

yeah.. govt has accomplished nothing... SUUURRRE....

Aren't all your examples things that governments hired private contractors to build?

NASA is private? didn't know that... last I checked it was a govt think tank...but what do I know...

anyway your line of argument is the same round and round you always bring in when the topic gets stale... I'm out.. have fun...

I'm happy to debate with people for the sake of knowledge and to be proven right or wrong and learn.. you obviously just want to argue for argument's sake... enjoy