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The 'net is now neutered - FCC adopts new regs today
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BadKarma
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Location: Duvall Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 8722
Real Name: Jaime
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Wacarry wrote: Can someone explain what this means to us in layman's terms? Jaime purchases a Honda Accord for $6000. It can go 70mph.(Email, not time critical data transfer, gun forums) Dan purchases a Tahoe for lets say $20K. It can go up to 80mph.(Streaming Audio) Steve purchases a Lambo for $250K. it can go 210mph.(Streaming video speeds) No matter what you paid for(streaming video/audio, pretty kitty pictures or just to check email) you can not go faster than 60mph. there is no carpool lane. There is no expressway. There is NOTHING as you all can go no faster than 60mph.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:44 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53104
Real Name: Steve
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BadKarma wrote: Steve purchases a Lambo for $250K . . . No matter what you paid for you can not go faster than 60mph. there is no carpool lane. There is no expressway. There is NOTHING as you all can go no faster than 60mph. But I'm still pulling more pussy than the others because I've got the Lambo! 
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:09 pm |
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H2obouget
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Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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MadPick wrote: BadKarma wrote: Steve purchases a Lambo for $250K . . . No matter what you paid for you can not go faster than 60mph. there is no carpool lane. There is no expressway. There is NOTHING as you all can go no faster than 60mph. But I'm still pulling more pussy than the others because I've got the Lambo!  Rule 24 applies here.....because it's the internet, and while you claim you bought a Lambo for $250K....everyone knows you're just sitting at home in your boxers eating Cheetos watching $250K worth of premium porn. 
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:37 pm |
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lunacite
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Location: Snohomish County Joined: Tue Feb 21, 2012 Posts: 1146
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Bleh, still too slow 
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:39 pm |
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spikedzombies
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Location: Lakewood, WA Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 Posts: 4025
Real Name: brad aka bubba
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i feel slow 
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:06 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461
Real Name: Ace Winky
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BadKarma wrote: Kind of slow around this time of the day. it is usually 108...  Wait...........did you move? 
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck?
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:30 pm |
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MadPick
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Location: Renton, WA Joined: Sun Mar 13, 2011 Posts: 53104
Real Name: Steve
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Pablo wrote: BadKarma wrote: Kind of slow around this time of the day. it is usually 108...  Wait...........did you move?  It's okay, Pablo. Your ping score is TWICE his! You win! 
_________________SteveBenefactor Life Member, National Rifle AssociationLife Member, Second Amendment FoundationPatriot & Life Member, Gun Owners of AmericaLife Member, Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear ArmsLegal Action Supporter, Firearms Policy CoalitionMember, NAGR/NFGRPlease support the organizations that support all of us.Leave it cleaner than you found it.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:32 pm |
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cmica
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Location: I-5 /512 Joined: Thu Dec 8, 2011 Posts: 15491
Real Name: chris
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spikedzombies wrote: i feel slow  you feel sloww bahhhhaaa go look at the other pg.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:34 pm |
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Pablo
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Location: Everson, WA Joined: Sun Jan 6, 2013 Posts: 28461
Real Name: Ace Winky
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Net Neutrality? I've read a bunch of stuff. Conclusion: Higher rates, shitty service, more government interference. Triple winner!! 
_________________ Why does the Penguin in Batman sound like a duck?
Because the eagle sounds like a hawk.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:44 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026
Real Name: Steve
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BadKarma wrote: Wacarry wrote: Can someone explain what this means to us in layman's terms? Jaime purchases a Honda Accord for $6000. It can go 70mph.(Email, not time critical data transfer, gun forums) Dan purchases a Tahoe for lets say $20K. It can go up to 80mph.(Streaming Audio) Steve purchases a Lambo for $250K. it can go 210mph.(Streaming video speeds) No matter what you paid for(streaming video/audio, pretty kitty pictures or just to check email) you can not go faster than 60mph. there is no carpool lane. There is no expressway. There is NOTHING as you all can go no faster than 60mph. More like the guy with the Lambo isn't allowed to go 210mph, unless he pays an extra cost, because the road is sponsored by Ferarri... It has nothing to do with making everyone have the exact same speed, but rather in preventing traffic manipulation against websites or services the telco or ISP does not consider desirable. Ever wonder why you can pick up an AT&T cellphone and call a guy on CenturyLink, and then get him to transfer you over to somebody on BellSouth? And it happens about as fast as the current technology allows, and Bellsouth isn't allowed to fuck with your call because it originates on an AT&T cellphone? Now that same principal applies to websites. The owner of the cable doesn't get to decide what speed you can access certain websites at. The problem with communication pipes is that there are usually only a small handful in a given area that can be profitably operated. The end result is a near monopoly on infrastructure. Even more so, because it usually has to be ran in the public right of way, so a lot of times, you'd have to dig up the streets every time somebody wants to run a new cable to serve the same area. So to that end, the government tolerates near monopolistic behavior, but there is a trade off. Those cables have to be pretty open to access. AT&T may own the main trunk coming into a town, but they have to permit access to that trunk as a condition of controlling the infrastructure. That's how you get access to all sorts of different long distance service providers, even if they don't own the trunk itself. Now ISP's are regulated as Telcos. The Bell system evolved for a reason. There is a reason Postal Telegraph went under and Western Union stayed in business. I could go on and on and on about how the current system of telcos and regulations evolved, it's a really convoluted mess. By regulating ISP's as telcos, they no longer get to play silly games of charging customers or website operators extra money to access the entire net. Speed entirely depends on the speed of your pipe, but this doesn't force all pipes to run at the exact same speed. Instead, it prevents operators from taking an 80mph highway and deciding who can go 80 and who can go 20, and who can't get on at all, and it prevents them from taking the 210mph highway and doing the exact same thing. Net Neutrality means Comcast can't decide to charge customers extra to access gun related websites, or their access will be restricted otherwise. Real simple. Not all that hard at all, unless you get your news from Fox or AM Radio.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:47 pm |
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bhpdrew
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Location: Spokane Joined: Tue Apr 12, 2011 Posts: 9645
Real Name: Hans Edlefreth III.
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So, does this mean I cannot continue to make accounts for Dan on dating sites and have his profile pic for those accounts be huge black dick pics?
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:52 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026
Real Name: Steve
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bhpdrew wrote: So, does this mean I cannot continue to make accounts for Dan on dating sites and have his profile pic for those accounts be huge black dick pics? No, because the ObamaNet now only censors conservative websites, and will tax everyone else to give internet to illegals
_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:54 pm |
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glockgirl
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Location: Bellevue Joined: Tue Aug 6, 2013 Posts: 4895
Real Name: Jennifer
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 I think I win this one, boys. And no, Drew, you'll have to switch from posting pics with Dan's fake dating site profiles from those featuring BBCs to those featuring BICs. Sorry.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:56 pm |
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BadKarma
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Location: Duvall Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 Posts: 8722
Real Name: Jaime
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kf7mjf wrote: BadKarma wrote: Wacarry wrote: Can someone explain what this means to us in layman's terms? Jaime purchases a Honda Accord for $6000. It can go 70mph.(Email, not time critical data transfer, gun forums) Dan purchases a Tahoe for lets say $20K. It can go up to 80mph.(Streaming Audio) Steve purchases a Lambo for $250K. it can go 210mph.(Streaming video speeds) No matter what you paid for(streaming video/audio, pretty kitty pictures or just to check email) you can not go faster than 60mph. there is no carpool lane. There is no expressway. There is NOTHING as you all can go no faster than 60mph. More like the guy with the Lambo isn't allowed to go 210mph, unless he pays an extra cost, because the road is sponsored by Ferarri... It has nothing to do with making everyone have the exact same speed, but rather in preventing traffic manipulation against websites or services the telco or ISP does not consider desirable. Ever wonder why you can pick up an AT&T cellphone and call a guy on CenturyLink, and then get him to transfer you over to somebody on BellSouth? And it happens about as fast as the current technology allows, and Bellsouth isn't allowed to fuck with your call because it originates on an AT&T cellphone? Now that same principal applies to websites. The owner of the cable doesn't get to decide what speed you can access certain websites at. The problem with communication pipes is that there are usually only a small handful in a given area that can be profitably operated. The end result is a near monopoly on infrastructure. Even more so, because it usually has to be ran in the public right of way, so a lot of times, you'd have to dig up the streets every time somebody wants to run a new cable to serve the same area. So to that end, the government tolerates near monopolistic behavior, but there is a trade off. Those cables have to be pretty open to access. AT&T may own the main trunk coming into a town, but they have to permit access to that trunk as a condition of controlling the infrastructure. That's how you get access to all sorts of different long distance service providers, even if they don't own the trunk itself. Now ISP's are regulated as Telcos. The Bell system evolved for a reason. There is a reason Postal Telegraph went under and Western Union stayed in business. I could go on and on and on about how the current system of telcos and regulations evolved, it's a really convoluted mess. By regulating ISP's as telcos, they no longer get to play silly games of charging customers or website operators extra money to access the entire net. Speed entirely depends on the speed of your pipe, but this doesn't force all pipes to run at the exact same speed. Instead, it prevents operators from taking an 80mph highway and deciding who can go 80 and who can go 20, and who can't get on at all, and it prevents them from taking the 210mph highway and doing the exact same thing. Net Neutrality means Comcast can't decide to charge customers extra to access gun related websites, or their access will be restricted otherwise. Real simple. Not all that hard at all, unless you get your news from Fox or AM Radio. Um no. But thank you for playing.
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| Thu Feb 26, 2015 8:01 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026
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 Note two different phone numbers in this 1911 Seattle taxi cab ad. This was because until the 1960's, Bell did not allow interconnection with other telephone exchanges. If you were a Bell subscriber, you could only call other Bell phones. Net Neutrality is designed to keep this from happening with the internet.
_________________ "I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." - William Buckley, Jr.
"...steam, artillery and revolvers give to civilized man an irresistible power." -Perry Collins
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