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 The 'net is now neutered - FCC adopts new regs today 
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Many people do. If it works for you and offers what you want at a lower cost...

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Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:49 am
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I can stream Netflix on 3G...... 4k if I'm on LTE....

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I haven't had comcast for probably 5 years... and for unlimited internet, 'tv', and phone, I pay about $70/month...taxes included...

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Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:11 pm
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DocNugent wrote:
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Speed is all on the quality and type of connection you pay for. Hulu, Netflix,Amazon, Google and more offer tons of streaming content . Depends on what you are after.

None of those can get to my house without Comcast. Are you suggesting that I drop the TV part of my Comcast package in favor of a faster internet-only Comcast connection that would bypass my beloved TiVo?
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This is why I wish that the last-mile of cable infrastructure had to be offered under FRAND terms, so that there could actually be some competition for internet access. I consider the COAX lines running to peoples houses to be just like the Power lines running to your house. It's a utility, because nobody is going to create a 2nd set of power poles and run a 2nd set of power cables all over the country. If there actually was competition for internet access, then we wouldn't have companies working anti-competitively, in monopolistic fashions.


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DocNugent wrote:
kf7mjf wrote:
Speed is all on the quality and type of connection you pay for. Hulu, Netflix,Amazon, Google and more offer tons of streaming content . Depends on what you are after.

None of those can get to my house without Comcast. Are you suggesting that I drop the TV part of my Comcast package in favor of a faster internet-only Comcast connection that would bypass my beloved TiVo?
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If you are ok with just local network channels, you can get internet + very basic cable for $50/month through Comcast. And you'll have to rent a modem for internet (assuming you haven't bought one) and cable card for your TiVo.

Then you get the basic stuff like news, sports, and the broadcast network tv shows. And also use streaming services like Netflix.

For what it's worth, Hulu isn't worth it when you have this kind of package. No sense in paying for a subscription when you still have to watch commercials. We just record everything on our TiVo and fast forward thru them.


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Finally we are starting to get some good articles about what the 8 pages actually do:

https://torrentfreak.com/u-s-net-neutra ... le-150315/

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The FCC argues that copyright infringement hurts the economy, so ISPs are free to take appropriate measures against this type of traffic. This includes the voluntary censoring of pirate sites,


That's censorship. It'll be pushed by the RIAA and MPAA to prevent us from seeing things on the internet.

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“Carving a copyright loophole in net neutrality would leave your lawful activities at the mercy of overbroad copyright filtering schemes, and we already have plenty of experience with copyright enforcers targeting legitimate users by mistake, carelessness, or design,” the EFF wrote at the time.


The RIAA and MPAA regularly submit overly broad take-down notices, asking that completely legal and lawful content be blocked. We cannot allow this activity to be legal.

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It’s one thing to say that ISPs can block subject to a valid court order, quite another to let ISPs make decisions about the lawfulness of content for themselves,” he adds.

The issue is particularly concerning because many ISPs also have their own media properties. This means that their incentive to block copyright infringement may be greater than the incentive to protect fair use material.


More censorship, in this case to protect their own products.

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A related concern is that ISPs can use privacy invasive technologies such as Deep Packet Inspection to monitor users’ traffic for possible copyright violations


Add this into the upcoming CISPA, which allows companies to share info on their users with the government, they are now trying to legalize monitoring and spying on us.

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“The FCC’s response to concerns about deep packet inspection is that users can just use SSL, VPNs and TOR,” Walsh says.

Or you know, maybe, they could just not spy on everything we do to begin with.

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The problem remains, however, that it’s still unclear how far ISPs can go under the “copyright” and “network management” loopholes.

It better remain illegal to block torrents based upon copyright or network management loopholes. I use torrents to download Linux distributions and help share the Norwegian Train Video with other people, all 100% legal. Inhibiting this activity to reduce load on their network isn't a valid practice. The reason I purchase internet access is so I can USE it.


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Well... that didn't take long.


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