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Two cops shot in Ferguson...
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Site Supporter   Location: East of Japan, not by much. Joined: Fri Jun 3, 2011 Posts: 13009 
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kf7mjf wrote: BadKarma wrote: never_to_much wrote: The entire police staff and all first responders should up and leave and let this city that doesn't want them to police it's self. That would be a great protest. Just up and walk out. I bet many other agencies would be glad to hire them. There is an employment market for people who were directed to maximize revenue through tickets and fines? Scary. Yep. It is called The Federal Government. _________________ Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day. Give a man a fishing pole, and he will drink too much beer, get tangled in fish line, hook himself in the nose casting, fall overboard, and either drown, or, go home hungry and wet. Give a man a case of dynamite, and he will feed the whole town for a year! BE ON NOTICE: PRIVACY NOTICE: Warning - any person and/or institution and/or Agent and/or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring/using this website or any of its associated websites, you do NOT have my permission to utilize any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and/or the comments made about my photos or any other "picture" art posted on my profile. You are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from disclosing, copying, distributing, disseminating, or taking any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein. The foregoing prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student or any personnel under your direction or control. The contents of this profile are PRIVATE and legally privileged and confidential information, and the violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law. UCC 1-103 1-308 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED WITHOUT PREJUDICE |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:39 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: AZ Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 460 Real Name: Craig
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Massivedesign wrote: L_O_G wrote: News outlets were saying that the shots were fired from about 200 yards away.. WOW! That's a hell of a shot(s)! If it really was 200 yards we will know this was a psy-op if the rounds were M855. |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:59 am |
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Site Supporter  Location: Auburn/Bellevue Joined: Wed Jan 4, 2012 Posts: 527
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This fucking dip shit Bishop Robinson on CNN right now is say "it was a professional hit with a silencer, it wasn't anyone in my group of 50, but he wasn't trying to kill the cop" Fucking shit stain is just saying anything he can to deflect suspicion from the protesters (anti police crowd)
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| Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:14 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: AZ Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 460 Real Name: Craig
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cosme9242 wrote: wasn't trying to kill the cop Getting shot in the face isn't lethal? This guy is...  |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:19 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: AZ Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2013 Posts: 460 Real Name: Craig
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os2firefox wrote: They used a pistol ar to shoot pistol caliber m855 armor piercing bullets, duh Even if not, would TOTALLY not surprise me if exactly that was "found" shortly. Ya with an evidence tag still on it. |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:21 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Bellevue Joined: Tue Aug 6, 2013 Posts: 4895 Real Name: Jennifer
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And all of this immediately (give or take 24 hours) after the Ferguson, MO police chief announced his decision to resign, effective 19 March. ABC News and multiple other outlets are now reporting that both officers have been released from hospital after sustaining "non-life-threatening injuries". So whomever fired the shots, either didn't intend to kill (my hope) or was a terrible shot (by the grace of a merciful G-d).
St. Louis police and the Missouri State Patrol have "taken over security" for protests, probably a good thing. Apparently one has already occurred, last night. _________________ "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." ~ Samuel Adams "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." ~Tenzin Gyatso, aka His Holiness the Dalai Lama "We who are strong have an obligation to bear with the failings of the weak, and not to please ourselves." ~ Romans 15:1 "Ils Ont Les Armes, On Les Emmerde, On A Le Champagne!"~Charlie Hebdo, November 2015 |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:20 pm |
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In Memoriam  Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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125 yards... bullet to cheek, lodged near ear.....released the next day
125 yards...bullet to shoulder, exit out the back...released the next day I'm thinking .22 lr. Even pistol rounds at that range are going to hit with more authority. A 5.56 even from a pistol most certainly would have done more damage. A rifle fired .30 cal would have killed most certainly. _________________ What is a Waterbouget? It is that yellow thing in the middle, below my user name. |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:49 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174 Real Name: Johnny 5
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H2obouget wrote: 125 yards... bullet to cheek, lodged near ear.....released the next day 125 yards...bullet to shoulder, exit out the back...released the next day I'm thinking .22 lr. Even pistol rounds at that range are going to hit with more authority. A 5.56 even from a pistol most certainly would have done more damage. A rifle fired .30 cal would have killed most certainly. I was originally thinking 9mm, as velocity would aid in accuracy ... less bullet drop over say a .45.... something thugs know nothing about... But I believe you're correct, I don't see a 9mm slowing down because of a jaw bone or cheek... 9mm HP would've shroomed, and 9mm FMJ would've kept on trucking... _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:10 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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The statement that the shots came from a hill...is misleading...if you google map that police station, pretty much everything west is up hill. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.741641, ... MzZCKA!2e0
However, one picture online, combined with google map suggests that the shooter was west of the station, up Tiffin Ave. Which is about the only place that the shooter could have been about 125 yards away and up hill. Bullet drop @ 125yards is about 4.5-5", assuming they used a .22lr on a rifle zero'd @ 100 yards So the shot to the shoulder was an aimed headshot, and the shot to the cheek...would have been aimed at the forehead. (roughly) I realize that there is an angle involved, and that alters the trajectory.....distance shooters can calc the specific numbers... Not my strong suit. Shooter shooting down hill, calc angle (5-10 degrees), adjust hold over...etc _________________ What is a Waterbouget? It is that yellow thing in the middle, below my user name. |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:59 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: Ohio Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2011 Posts: 195 Real Name: Fred Flintstone
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H2obouget wrote: The statement that the shots came from a hill...is misleading...if you google map that police station, pretty much everything west is up hill. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.741641, ... MzZCKA!2e0 However, one picture online, combined with google map suggests that the shooter was west of the station, up Tiffin Ave. Which is about the only place that the shooter could have been about 125 yards away and up hill. Bullet drop @ 125yards is about 4.5-5", assuming they used a .22lr on a rifle zero'd @ 100 yards So the shot to the shoulder was an aimed headshot, and the shot to the cheek...would have been aimed at the forehead. (roughly) I realize that there is an angle involved, and that alters the trajectory.....distance shooters can calc the specific numbers... Not my strong suit. Shooter shooting down hill, calc angle (5-10 degrees), adjust hold over...etc Really?? I doubt very seriously if anybody ---> in that crowd <--- could hit a man sized paper target at 100 yards. Let alone two moving men. Let along with a pistol. Im calling bs on the scenario as presented....or its something/somebody else. Ive been shooting all my life. Id really be surprised if I could make a 100+ yard pistol shot on two different moving men. As said early in the thread- with my rifle, no problem. A handgun? Im not buying it. Next question- who would have the most to gain from this? |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:37 pm |
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Site Supporter Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174 Real Name: Johnny 5
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CavVet wrote: H2obouget wrote: The statement that the shots came from a hill...is misleading...if you google map that police station, pretty much everything west is up hill. https://www.google.com/maps/@38.741641, ... MzZCKA!2e0 However, one picture online, combined with google map suggests that the shooter was west of the station, up Tiffin Ave. Which is about the only place that the shooter could have been about 125 yards away and up hill. Bullet drop @ 125yards is about 4.5-5", assuming they used a .22lr on a rifle zero'd @ 100 yards So the shot to the shoulder was an aimed headshot, and the shot to the cheek...would have been aimed at the forehead. (roughly) I realize that there is an angle involved, and that alters the trajectory.....distance shooters can calc the specific numbers... Not my strong suit. Shooter shooting down hill, calc angle (5-10 degrees), adjust hold over...etc Really?? I doubt very seriously if anybody ---> in that crowd <--- could hit a man sized paper target at 100 yards. Let alone two moving men. Let along with a pistol. Im calling bs on the scenario as presented....or its something/somebody else. Ive been shooting all my life. Id really be surprised if I could make a 100+ yard pistol shot on two different moving men. As said early in the thread- with my rifle, no problem. A handgun? Im not buying it. Next question- who would have the most to gain from this? It's the KKK and ISIS that planned it and carried it out, didn't you hear? Dickbag state senator blames cop shooting on white supremacists and ISIS (video). _________________ NO DISASSEMBLE! Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 7:43 pm |
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In Memoriam Location: Graham Joined: Sun Sep 4, 2011 Posts: 2220
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When did I say pistol?
125 yards with a rifle isn't exactly hard. The officers, according to current statements, were stationary. I find it extremely unlikely that, given the shot placement, that someone shot at close range and NONE of the, many, officers saw anything. As to who...the world is full of zealots for a cause. As to why...revenge, to spark a hostile reaction, because they could... Take your pick. _________________ What is a Waterbouget? It is that yellow thing in the middle, below my user name. |
| Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:52 pm |
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Site Supporter  Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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CavVet wrote: I doubt very seriously if anybody ---> in that crowd <--- could hit a man sized paper target at 100 yards. Let alone two moving men. Let along with a pistol. They were in a line of 20-25 officers. You fire enough rounds at a target that is 6' high and 50-60' wide from 100 yards, there's a decent chance you'll connect. |
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