Does Islam Promote Violence?

[ANZAC]

Enighten me, how do you tell a Radical Extremist Muslim from a Non-radical, when the Radical's views say they can lie to you about anything, and be justified in doing so?

What about the Christians? Who knows what they will do!

It is easy for you to categorize all Muslims as being indistinguishable because they're different from you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

[TINCANBANDIT]

Yep Christians are a scary bunch....this one time my friend got invited to Sunday Services....can you imagine the horror?

just a few weeks ago I had some Mormon thugs dressed like the guys from Pulp Fiction hand me some literature on my front porch...I almost fainted from fear

[RENCORP]

It is the Watchtower guys dressed up like Amway sales staff that are the scariest.

[TINCANBANDIT]

It is the Watchtower guys dressed up like Amway sales staff that are the scariest.

yep, I have even heard of some verbal accosting going on....no arrests yet though

[Massivedesign]

The personal attacks need to go, and go now. This thread was started to incite discussion, and until the last few posts has done a pretty good job of doing that. If you don't agree with the way a thread is going you have 2 choices. 1) PM a Mod and let them know how it's a violation of the CoC or 2) Don't post in it.

You will see that there is no 3rd option of posting up to incite further arguments or off-topic items in an attempt to derail, because that would just be silly, and a violation of the CoC. I feel I wouldn't be the only one to see the irony of the "Gods of WaGuns" to come in throwing the ban hammer in a thread about Islam's violence.

[MadPick]

That's right. If you see something you don't like:

1) Report it or PM a mod.
2) Don't respond to it.
3) Prophet.

[H2obouget]

This thread was started to incite discussion....

I'll have to disagree with this.
None of the three have clearly stated their view. (As usual)
None of the three will answer questions posed directly to them. (As usual)
All of the three choose to dance around the actual goals of having a meaningful discussion. (As usual)

dis·cus·sion
dəˈskəSH(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

At this point, I will recuse myself from this thread.
In fact, I think I will recuse myself from the site in general.
Ever since 594 passed, there have been fewer and fewer WTS/WTT posts and more chit-chat posts. While I like chit-chat - especially when it is a true, solid, meaningful discussion - I like to do it with people who are straight forward and honest about their positions and who's goal is to come to some conclusion or consensus.
Three of our site members use these threads like a constant, ongoing game.
I'm done playing.

[Classic]

This thread was started to incite discussion....

I'll have to disagree with this.
None of the three have clearly stated their view. (As usual)
None of the three will answer questions posed directly to them. (As usual)
All of the three choose to dance around the actual goals of having a meaningful discussion. (As usual)

dis·cus·sion
dəˈskəSH(ə)n/
noun
the action or process of talking about something, typically in order to reach a decision or to exchange ideas.

At this point, I will recuse myself from this thread.
In fact, I think I will recuse myself from the site in general.
Ever since 594 passed, there have been fewer and fewer WTS/WTT posts and more chit-chat posts. While I like chit-chat - especially when it is a true, solid, meaningful discussion - I like to do it with people who are straight forward and honest about their positions and who's goal is to come to some conclusion or consensus.
Three of our site members use these threads like a constant, ongoing game.
I'm done playing.

I gotta admit I totally agree with your points. Seems like there are a few that incite but seem to skate when others call them on it. What's the old saying? Oh yah, IT TAKES TWO TO FIGHT! Both sides are just as guilty.
Sorry to lose you, seems like this site has lost a lot of quality people in the last few months.... hmmmm I wonder why.........

[H2obouget]

Not leaving....I'll just be shopping more than posting.

[CurtisLemansky]

My view is this... not all Muslims are jihadist radicals, nor should they be treated or assumed to be as such. If that hasn't been clear the entire time I have to wonder about your level of reading comprehension.

If you would point out the specific questions of which have been avoided, I will gladly address those. No one has given any specifics since the last time I asked...


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[CQBgopher]

My view is this... not all Muslims are jihadist radicals, nor should they be treated or assumed to be as such. If that hasn't been clear the entire time I have to wonder about your level of reading comprehension.

If you would point out the specific questions of which have been avoided, I will gladly address those. No one has given any specifics since the last time I asked...


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My level of reading comprehension is just great.

Why not have a mature discussion without veiled insults? People disagree all the time without belittling one another in the real world. No doubt if this conversation was done face to face over a $5 steak it wouldn't be full of little smarmy personal shots, and any "shots" taken would either be poured by a bartender or in good fun amongst peers and friends.

However, if said smarmyness was present "IRL" rest assured I'll speak up over that steak just as quick as on here. Why that makes my comments more instigating or otherwise unproductive than undertones like I bolded, I don't know, but whatever.

No ill will towards anybody. My life is much too full of REAL problems to dislike people on the internet.

[CurtisLemansky]

My view is this... not all Muslims are jihadist radicals, nor should they be treated or assumed to be as such. If that hasn't been clear the entire time I have to wonder about your level of reading comprehension.

If you would point out the specific questions of which have been avoided, I will gladly address those. No one has given any specifics since the last time I asked...


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My level of reading comprehension is just great.

Why not have a mature discussion without veiled insults? People disagree all the time without belittling one another in the real world. No doubt if this conversation was done face to face over a $5 steak it wouldn't be full of little smarmy personal shots, and any "shots" taken would either be poured by a bartender or in good fun amongst peers and friends.

However, if said smarmyness was present "IRL" rest assured I'll speak up over that steak just as quick as on here. Why that makes my comments more instigating or otherwise unproductive than undertones like I bolded, I don't know, but whatever.

No ill will towards anybody. My life is much too full of REAL problems to dislike people on the internet.

That was directed at h2o after he made more unsubstantiated accusations and then figuratively stormed out.

I stand by my posts and my defense of them. No ill will here either, believe me, just addressing some of the accusations and names thrown my way.


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[OhShoot!]

Yep Christians are a scary bunch....this one time my friend got invited to Sunday Services....can you imagine the horror?

just a few weeks ago I had some Mormon thugs dressed like the guys from Pulp Fiction hand me some literature on my front porch...I almost fainted from fear

...And some hung black folks from trees by their necks too.

[Gumebare]

My view is this... not all Muslims are jihadist radicals, nor should they be treated or assumed to be as such. If that hasn't been clear the entire time I have to wonder about your level of reading comprehension.

If you would point out the specific questions of which have been avoided, I will gladly address those. No one has given any specifics since the last time I asked...


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My level of reading comprehension is just great.

Why not have a mature discussion without veiled insults? People disagree all the time without belittling one another in the real world. No doubt if this conversation was done face to face over a $5 steak it wouldn't be full of little smarmy personal shots, and any "shots" taken would either be poured by a bartender or in good fun amongst peers and friends.

However, if said smarmyness was present "IRL" rest assured I'll speak up over that steak just as quick as on here. Why that makes my comments more instigating or otherwise unproductive than undertones like I bolded, I don't know, but whatever.

No ill will towards anybody. My life is much too full of REAL problems to dislike people on the internet.

That was directed at h2o after he made more unsubstantiated accusations and then figuratively stormed out.

I stand by my posts and my defense of them. No ill will here either, believe me, just addressing some of the accusations and names thrown my way.

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WOW, and just that. Children need to speak when spoken to. There are but a few members here that seem to incite, rather than contribute. That is all I have to say on the matter.

[Gumebare]

Yep Christians are a scary bunch....this one time my friend got invited to Sunday Services....can you imagine the horror?

just a few weeks ago I had some Mormon thugs dressed like the guys from Pulp Fiction hand me some literature on my front porch...I almost fainted from fear

...And some hung black folks from trees by their necks too.

I really hope your being sarcastic here