Nice try ATF t-shirt (maybe a WAGuns version?)

[cowboycraig]

I really like this t-shirt but know nothing about who created etc so not really interested. Still wanted to pass it on because it is pretty bad-ass.

http://teespring.com/nicetryatf

Think a WAGuns version of this would be a money maker (I would buy one).

Craig

[Ops]

Yeap poke the bear

[Mediumrarechicken]

Meh. There are a million other shirts I'd buy first.

[usagi]

looks like a t-shirt with a dildo on it.

[Marine3%er]

I believe they only put it on hold for now not scraping the idea of banning it .

[cowboycraig]

Just for fun....

[Pablo]

Just for fun....

That is cool. But just put a:


FBHO

On in.

[Bently_Coop]

I believe they only put it on hold for now not scraping the idea of banning it .

After the ATF dropped it a Democratic Senator was putting a bill forward regarding the same. Pretty sure the senators were from NY and NJ

[PMB]

Yeap poke the bear

That was my internal voice when I read the thread title... "Poke the bear"...

I -hate- that there is a .Gov organization staffed by "order followers" who will willfully bring death and destruction upon good people at the whim of anti-2A "leaders."
It's sickening.
The filth of 1934 and 1968 are against the Constitution and against our Founding Father's express design.

All that being said, they hover over our formerly free nation like a black cloud toxic smoke, their Controllist agenda ready to dropped on individuals almost without any checks and balances.
I don't poke the bear. It should be ended, not poked.

[velillen]

I believe they only put it on hold for now not scraping the idea of banning it .

After the ATF dropped it a Democratic Senator was putting a bill forward regarding the same. Pretty sure the senators were from NY and NJ

The ATF didn't drop it. They just put it on the back burner.

But yes democrats introduced a bill which is going nowhere (from my understanding). The Republics however introduced a counter bill to make it legal. Havent heard anything on that bill really though

[Guns4Liberty]

I believe they only put it on hold for now not scraping the idea of banning it .

After the ATF dropped it a Democratic Senator was putting a bill forward regarding the same. Pretty sure the senators were from NY and NJ

The ATF didn't drop it. They just put it on the back burner.

But yes democrats introduced a bill which is going nowhere (from my understanding). The Republics however introduced a counter bill to make it legal. Havent heard anything on that bill really though

And none of the bills are going anywhere...they're all political posturing. R's won't let D bills pass; Obama will veto R bills that do pass. This is the state of politics in the USA in 2015. Bipartisanship has been killed by a lack of trust.

[joao01]

I believe they only put it on hold for now not scraping the idea of banning it .

After the ATF dropped it a Democratic Senator was putting a bill forward regarding the same. Pretty sure the senators were from NY and NJ

The ATF didn't drop it. They just put it on the back burner.

But yes democrats introduced a bill which is going nowhere (from my understanding). The Republics however introduced a counter bill to make it legal. Havent heard anything on that bill really though

And none of the bills are going anywhere...they're all political posturing. R's won't let D bills pass; Obama will veto R bills that do pass. This is the state of politics in the USA in 2015. Bipartisanship has been killed by a lack of trust.

not always, but sometimes this is a good thing. IMO, government is most effective when it does nothing.

[Guns4Liberty]

not always, but sometimes this is a good thing. IMO, government is most effective when it does nothing.

Totally agree...the job of a legislator is not exclusively to pass new legislation; it is equally to prevent bad legislation from ever passing, and even to repeal bad legislation that has been signed into law.

"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

[PMB]

not always, but sometimes this is a good thing. IMO, government is most effective when it does nothing.

Totally agree...the job of a legislator is not exclusively to pass new legislation; it is equally to prevent bad legislation from ever passing, and even to repeal bad legislation that has been signed into law.

"No man's life, liberty, or property are safe while the legislature is in session." - Mark Twain

I blame the legislators and revile them for this... But the voters are at fault. Too desperate for having things that they want, instead of feeling the libraries of laws crowding out the freedom that this country was built on.

For some reason Libertarians only grab about 10% of the votes (tops) despite a much larger group of people who wish their were less freedom-killing laws on the books.

Pass some legislation requiring there to be less legislation, I say. Use up some of that $80B/month that's rolling off the Fed's printing presses and fund a study to determine the correct amount of laws for society to function well.

[Guns4Liberty]

I blame the legislators and revile them for this... But the voters are at fault. Too desperate for having things that they want, instead of feeling the libraries of laws crowding out the freedom that this country was built on.

This country was founded with the expectation that it would only survive if the electorate actively participated in the governing process and remained educated on the candidates/issues. Judging by the modern voter participation rates and the idiots we have in office, neither of those expectations are being met. Is it any wonder that our freedoms are but mere shadows of their former selves?

For some reason Libertarians only grab about 10% of the votes (tops) despite a much larger group of people who wish their were less freedom-killing laws on the books.

I think it's because many people don't realize they are actually Libertarians. Perhaps a lack of curiosity is to blame for the sub-optimal Libertarian ranks. That, and the two-party tradition is still far too strong. Ordinarily, I like and respect traditions, but that one can go to hell.

As for the "green tip" shirts, I like the concept, but I think the message would be lost on all but the most gun savvy observers.