Germanwings crash... a bad day for aviation

[CQBgopher]

Can't plan for everything.

[glockgirl]

My thinking is, if the guy had a psychotic break, even if there was another flight crew member in the cockpit temporarily, what would have stopped Mr. Lubitz from injuring/disabling/killing that other flight crew member? The only thing I can think of is perhaps having another flight crew member in the cockpit temporarily might have given Mr. Lubitz pause, or perhaps he might have been talked down...

[3584ELK]

The website I use for global aviation events: http://avherald.com/h?article=483a5651&opt=0

[toys in the toybox]

Folks I'm not an engineer for planes or any thing else and I understand the doors are now reinforced but like the planes that went down because of boxcutters, I doubt there is much in a plane that can't be breached given a wee bit of time and ingenuity......just sayin'

Mr plane will not meet the earth without a good fight and a whole lot of scratching and clawing

[rayjax82]

Folks I'm not an engineer for planes or any thing else and I understand the doors are now reinforced but like the planes that went down because of boxcutters, I doubt there is much in a plane that can't be breached given a wee bit of time and ingenuity......just sayin'

Mr plane will not meet the earth without a good fight and a whole lot of scratching and clawing

According to the cockpit voice recorder thats exactly what happened.

[never_to_much]

Thats pretty easy to fix. My shop uses our employee badges as access badges for entry. Shouldn't be hard to set something similar up.

Easy in theory, but problematic. What if a hijacker catches the captain on shit break and gets his badge? Now said hijacker has access to the cockpit and the locking door is pointless. IMO pilots need a lav in the cockpit area.

Steve, get crackin!

This! Steve, drop everything else and get on this!

Yeah . . . could happen, we'll see.

The biggest problem, of course, is space. EVERY DAMNED INCH on an airplane like that is accounted for. Cockpit's too small, you say, and you want it an inch longer? NO WAY. Not enough legroom, everyone needs one more inch? Not gonna happen unless the airline can justify the loss of seats and revenue.

9/11 caused enough of an uproar that the government and industry justified the enormous expense of retrofitting the entire fleet with secure, bulletproof doors. (Yes, it's a lot harder than it sounds.) Will the Germanwings incident (combined with a few similar incidents in the past) be enough of a push to integrate a lavatory into the cockpit? I think it's unlikely, but possible.

On most commercial airplanes there is a lavatory right next to the flight deck door. Let's say we move the door back, and make that lavatory a part of the flight deck, for flight crew use only. Then, we need to add ANOTHER lavatory for the passengers to use. Adding that lav means the loss of one triple seat, roughly speaking, and that's a big revenue hit for the airline.

We'll see how it goes . . . I suspect the answer will be a procedural one. For example, require a flight attendant to go into the flight deck so there are always two people there.

I thought you worked for Boeing not airbus.....

[MadPick]

I thought you worked for Boeing not airbus.....

[CQBgopher]

#BRING_BACK_THE_3RD_SEAT



........... that little computer gadget might be cheaper, but let's see a low time mealy mouth co-pilot out manueuver a crusty flight engineer.

........... especially in a damn Airbus.....wanna play suicide commando you say? *click* *click* try it now, biatch...

........... oh, what's that you say? Controls no workie you say? Tough shit, greenhorn, I'm in control now and here's a fire extinguisher to the cakehole, chew on that...biatch!

............ (pilot comes back) WTF happened in here?

............ someone needs a new diaper, autopilot is on and your right seat is 'disabled' for the duration of the flight.




#BRING_BACK_THE_3RD_SEAT

[cmica]

3rd seat sure, better yet why not diapers like NASCAR and astronauts. better yet why not have a hidden seat with toilet under it like tower crane guys use.

[CQBgopher]

better yet why not have a hidden seat with toilet under it like tower crane guys use.

STEVE! JOB SECURITY!!!

INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT BILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!

[cmica]

better yet why not have a hidden seat with toilet under it like tower crane guys use.

STEVE! JOB SECURITY!!!

INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT BILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!

do I get royalties

[CQBgopher]

better yet why not have a hidden seat with toilet under it like tower crane guys use.

STEVE! JOB SECURITY!!!

INDEPENDENT CONSULTANT BILLION DOLLAR IDEA!!!

do I get royalties

You could probably get him to sign over all the rights for cake...

[zombie66]

All pilots need to be mandated to wear Colostomy bags and Catheters.


Problem solved.

Isn't that what NASCAR Drivers do?

[Old Jim]

The biggest problem, of course, is space. EVERY DAMNED INCH on an airplane like that is accounted for. Cockpit's too small, you say, and you want it an inch longer? NO WAY. Not enough legroom, everyone needs one more inch? Not gonna happen unless the airline can justify the loss of seats and revenue.


2 liter pop bottle...problem solved.

[cmica]

The biggest problem, of course, is space. EVERY DAMNED INCH on an airplane like that is accounted for. Cockpit's too small, you say, and you want it an inch longer? NO WAY. Not enough legroom, everyone needs one more inch? Not gonna happen unless the airline can justify the loss of seats and revenue.


2 liter pop bottle...problem solved.

jim your forgetting something....what about #2.



oh ya while at it with flip toilet lids you can always draw a curtain for privacy, do know there are lady pilots.