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USPS admits storing all mail addresses in DB, recording cust
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174
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'Hidden' cameras were found un USPS property, in a 'utility box'... Positioned to capture license plates and drivers.... The USPS said they were 'justified' in using them, and it was a matter of 'people keeping people safe', but shortly after the request for information was made, the camera was pulled out of the ground... They have nothing to hide, but they're hiding it... And, they admitted to keeping a database of all the addresses on packages, sender and receiver, in a database.... So, now they're tracking everyone that puts anything in the mail... USPS caught using hidden cameras
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:11 pm |
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CurtisLemansky
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I remember the database stuff coming out a couple years ago, but the cameras are definitely new. Glad I don't bother with them anymore.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:20 pm |
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RockHopper
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Location: Tulsa, Ok Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 Posts: 2336
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Aside from the actual amount of information gathered, how is this any different than any other govt, or even private sector surveillance? It all comes down to the intent of use. Recognizing nefarious possibilities, is not the same as true intent. For example: you might argue that the purpose of your dash cam, is to record traffic interactions....when we all know that you're just waiting for the mothership to come back for your next unscheduled anal probe... 
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:37 pm |
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CQBgopher
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Cameras are everywhere. The non-disclosure part is disturbing, but we're all being followed.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:42 pm |
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Massivedesign
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Location: Olympia, WA Joined: Fri Mar 11, 2011 Posts: 38379
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Yup. Having my where abouts recorded as I enter and leave fed property is a given.
Having my mail tracked as well is a no-brainer as well. There is no expectation of privacy in these cases.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:46 pm |
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kf7mjf
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Location: Olympia Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 Posts: 16026
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Clearly it's time to start addressing packages as Acme Dildo and Anal Stimulator Mfg Co
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:11 pm |
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RockHopper
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:30 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515
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Those cameras are not put there to prevent crime, they are information gatherers. Who comes, who goes, and how often they do so.
Not really seeing how this is surprising to anyone.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:52 pm |
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RockHopper
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The USPS is broke. I have a difficult time imagining them with the funding to monitor who, when, and how often. CCTV is a crime deterrent, only because it is admissible evidence in an investigation. It's a cheap "cover your ass", all purpose insurance policy.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:10 pm |
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L_O_G
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Location: South Seattle Joined: Thu Sep 22, 2011 Posts: 13515
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RockHopper wrote: The USPS is broke. I have a difficult time imagining them with the funding to monitor who, when, and how often. CCTV is a crime deterrent, only because it is admissible evidence in an investigation. It's a cheap "cover your ass", all purpose insurance policy. Im sure some areas of the .GOV (DHS-FBI) have full access to these cameras. Just because the USPS is broke, doesn't mean their info that is gathered isn't shared.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:14 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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RockHopper wrote: The USPS is broke. I have a difficult time imagining them with the funding to monitor who, when, and how often. CCTV is a crime deterrent, only because it is admissible evidence in an investigation. It's a cheap "cover your ass", all purpose insurance policy. So you hide it in a utility box, aim it catch license plates, then tear it up when someone asks what it's for? sounds legit. 1984 is a fucking manual for some people, apparently, and not just a novel.
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:15 pm |
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RockHopper
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Ouch. I didn't argue any part of your post, or statements, why are you sniffin my ass? Loosin the chin strap on your tin foil hat, I don't think you're getting enough oxygen.
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:25 pm |
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TechnoWeenie
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Location: Nova Laboratories Joined: Tue Oct 25, 2011 Posts: 19174
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RockHopper wrote: Ouch. I didn't argue any part of your post, or statements, why are you sniffin my ass? Loosin the chin strap on your tin foil hat, I don't think you're getting enough oxygen. Just pointing out that surveillance on the level of recording and KEEPING addresses of all packages sent, and recording vehicle license plates along with the driver, goes far beyond CYA...
_________________NO DISASSEMBLE!Thomas Paine wrote: "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
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| Thu Mar 26, 2015 7:45 pm |
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Oleman
Location: Eastside Joined: Sat Jun 2, 2012 Posts: 1074
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They wonder why the P.O. cant' make money?
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| Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:41 pm |
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ANZAC
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Location: 12 Acres in Eastern WA Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 Posts: 7252
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I think they are taking pictures of you at the airport too.
Also, Unabomber.
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