Done

[Sinus211]

I don't know about train wreck. It seems like a fairly constructive conversion taking place. Mods/admins need to vent sometimes too.

And if we're clear to question why things are done the way they are, I have to know...why does Steve pee sitting down?

[kf7mjf]

And if we're clear to question why things are done the way they are, I have to know...why does Steve pee sitting down?

He doesn't want to get cake stains on his junk?

[golddigger14s]

I don't know about train wreck. It seems like a fairly constructive conversion taking place. Mods/admins need to vent sometimes too.

And if we're clear to question why things are done the way they are, I have to know...why does Steve pee sitting down?

No chance of missing?

[oldkim]

Fuck...

I didn't realize how bad it is...


How fucking sad some people are...



Did I mention I am so happy not to be a mod for some of you fucks anymore...
Please do leave and go play someplace else.

Go PAY and go away!


Sometimes some "shit storm" has to happen to clean out the "debris"

Message to everyone else.
Be nice to each other.

When nice doesn't work... just ignore... It's a great feature! Trust me I use it all the time now.
(mods can't use the ignore feature - I've tried).

...Get a mod/admin involved and let them handle it.
(Sorry mods/admins)



We're here to share and grow the sport of shooting.

[Sinus211]

I thought maybe he liked to test drive other toilets and critique their merits. You know, research.

[kf7mjf]

I thought maybe he liked to test drive other toilets and critique their merits. You know, research.

So basically, wiggling around, testing the ass to seat fit, nodding or frowning, marking a checklist, and trying to figure out how he could make a more comfortable seat that also weight 3 ounces less?

[Classic]

Listen Gary, Mash Man, Rivitman, and anybody else who seems to have a sandy vagina. I am sorry. I am sorry that I/we cannot serve your every want, wish, need or demand. I am sorry if we have failed to protect you from yourself, or the members who scare you. I personally apologize to all of you for not being able to back you up in times when you haven't been able to control yourselves. But, I cannot promise that my apology will change me/us/this/them.

I can promise though, that nobody is above the rules. Which is what this thread seems to be about.

Will this thread last on here for a while? Probably not. I'll probably come to my senses later on and trash it, for the greater good and all that.

If anybody feels that they have been treated unfairly, please reach out to Steve (madpick) AND I, in a PM or email.

Nope, no and in the vagina. You asked and I replied. The fact is that people make heated/stupid remarks and when someone gets in their face over it you should be giving them BOTH time out for (A) breaking the code of conduct and (B) starting the issue in the 1st place. I will say for someone to get time off for questioning the powers at be is pretty damn petty.

Folks I'm on facebook and NWFA

PS, Freeked out???? BULLSHIT

Lol.. We have never banned a person over asking why we do something a certain way.. In fact, we ENCOURAGE it. Just recently a bunch of members help modify the revision to the CoC.

Sometimes BOTH people get time out's.. It's actually the most common scenario actually. A lot of weight goes into history, post intent and actual CoC violations.

As mentioned above in MY OP.. There are 3 options that YOU as a concerned member can do about a post or set of posts you do not like. I suggest you follow those guidelines and let the mod staff do their work. If you would like to apply for a moderator position, please feel free to apply.

I will come to the resolve that you cannot provide the information in which you had no problem defaming us about. I'll just chalk this up to a life lesson. I won't ban you or anything....

Come on Dan, Be honest
After questioning how someone could "earn feedback" because -AND I QUOTE:

A member who is willing to spend time here @ waguns.org contributing to discussions is a valued one---even when those contributions go against the vocal majority, xxxxx is not afraid to be honest. Honesty is a difficult trait to live with in our new age society of PC vanilla 'don't offend anyone' ridiculousness, and those who do so should be appreciated. So, I'll give xxxxx a positive. Thanks for not being afraid to be yourself.

SO I said something to the extent (feel free to post exactly what I said unedited) that feedback like this undermines the integrity of the feedback system because no deal was done.
Then I asked if I could give negative feedback when someone said something I didn't like.
I got a response that said "We'll look into it and we may or may not get back to you" so I replied It's a good thing you aren't elected.

Freaked out? No way Dan. I was calling a spade a spade and got a vacation for questioning authority the right way - USING A PM instead of airing dirty laundry. I did NOT freak out.
As for being a mod... Gotta pass because I always stand up for the little guy

[RENCORP]

I propose a perfect solution.

Asshole's Anonymous Breakfast ASAP.

If any malefactors show up, they gotta go 3 rounds in a chicken coop in the back of some one's truck.

Just them, and the chickens. Oh, almost forgot - they gotta wear a t-shirt with a lot of bird seed glued on to it.


Okay, that probably won't work. Great YouTube videos though.



I got a 3 day holiday for verbally bitch slapping some one after I was warned not to.

Okay, I am a slow learner, okay ? If there is no bacon or whiskey involved as a motivator, I am a slow learner.

Not an excuse, but that guy really fried my circuits regarding what it means to be part of this country's population.

Well, the pen is mightier than the sword, so I used my butt hurt 3 days off to figure out how to get my points across with some threads that allow both myself and others to express our feelings about - WHAT IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS COUNTRY.

We all know about some of the stuff that is wrong, the media knows, lots of negativity out there in the world already, asnd it makes me puke, already.

So, fuck that, I decided to focus on some of the positive things about this great country and it's citizens.

I am all about promoting what is right about the USA, because there are too many ass hats doing the opposite out there in the world.

It worked out pretty good. I expressed myself, others argued, whined, and made themselves look silly, and some - got the point.

Bottom line - someone you don't like based on their posts here is giving you some idea of who they are as a human being, is just that kind of person, for the most part.

And there are a couple of them that are skilled at verbally getting people like me and others to run around in circles, barking, and biting our own tails.

Well, good for them. I learned how to ignore the crap, misdirection, interpretation, accusation, and still put up a pretty good fight.

So, check out my threads on Dolittle's Raiders - heroes, the ordinary Americans who inspired us to be better people.

Apart from that, silence and no response is the best way to deal with a gadfly.

They cannot stand it when they don't get a reaction from the rest of us - their whole reason for existing is to get a rise out of us.

Well, I can deal with that now.

The dissenters can practice their First Amendment right to free speech.

BUT - so can I, with more light, more positive words, more single minded focus on what I believe.

I hope that this helps my fellow Wa Guns members to step aside, and let the verbal punch to your nuts go flying by, as you give the puncher a helping hand in flying into an unceremonious heap in the corner, rather than trying to cold cock the assailant, thereby earning a vacation.

[Gumebare]

I thought maybe he liked to test drive other toilets and critique their merits. You know, research.

So basically, wiggling around, testing the ass to seat fit, nodding or frowning, marking a checklist, and trying to figure out how he could make a more comfortable seat that also weight 3 ounces less?

Internet Ninjas. To the admin and mods, good on you for letting folks speak their mind... Even if their opinion is of the left wing libtard type.

[Soldier_Citizen]

I think we need a no hole barred area... Set up like nsfw

[APA]

It's a GUN forum!!!! Hello! Wtf is up with so much drama.
This is better then reality TV.

[Massivedesign]

Internet Ninjas. To the admin and mods, good on you for letting folks speak their mind... Even if their opinion is of the left wing libtard type.

Well, we try to let members air their opinions. If they happen to be about a personnel problem or a member problem, we want those to go through PM or email to us though. It allows us to handle the issue as quickly as possible without involving the opinions, judgements etc of the general population.

I think we need a no hole barred area... Set up like nsfw

Ehhhh. No lol. It has been proposed and discussed before. If you want a no holds barred area, then get the persons email and go to town, maybe rant on CL. We don't think that any area here at WaGuns is or should be an area free of the CoC. We are all adults, even though not all of us act like it at times. The last thing you want to give an arson is a can of gas and a match... Why the hell would we want to create a free for all arena?

People seem to think the outhouse is a CoC free zone as well... It's not and... spoiler alert.. The outhouse will be vanishing soon, with threads moved to either GD or GFD. More on that later.

I am going to lock this down, as I think we have all heard and said enough. In typical Dan fashion though, I like to leave a nice parting comment.

To Rivitman, sorry to see you go. While your views were seen by most as out there, you did a decent job of portraying them and firing up the minds and souls of many. You are welcome to come back if you feel you can handle it.

To Classic, face it man.. There are a lot of things that we are never going to see eye to eye on. For a long time, after you got banned from SGN, you were a very supportive member. Somewhere along that road, a detour was taken. Not sure if it was us, you or a combination of both, but it is what it is. I am not going to ask you to change who you are, just as I am not going to change who I am. What I will say, is that you have caused a bit of discussion in sidebar discussions about the site. Most of them may not have gone your way, but you have made a positive impact on this site, for that, Thanks.

To Rencorp, your Canadian, so I know you'll apologize for anything and everything.... :) You too have been one of the most rock solid members who has been banned from SGN that we have ever had. You have, if anything always been consistent. Even though you are from the great white north, you have more 'Merican Freedom running through your veins than a lot of us. Keep doing what you do and how you do it.

To the members who are a daily and active part of this site. You members, who we see contribute on almost every thread; It's that consistency and contribution that makes WaGuns as accommodating and inviting that it is today. Cliques that have formed on other sites seem to not be visible here. Everybody to you is an equal, regardless if they have 2 posts, or 20,000. It's that framework that keeps this place running, not the coding behind the site. Whenever one of you goes off the temporary deep end and gets a timeout, it hurts the site, as much as it hurts your pride. The old adage, can't we all get along? Comes into play.

To the people who's views may not be the mainstream... You are welcome here. We don't care if you are a full citizen yet, we don't care if you think OC is stupid, we don't think if you think CC is stupid... As long as you are legally able to own a firearm and are a firearm enthusiast, you are welcome here.