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Re: Job searching advice

Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:12 pm

snozzberries wrote:
PMB wrote:I have a job for you Rick. C'mere. :4couple:

lower. lower. lower. right there

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Re: Job searching advice

Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:57 pm

Have you tried advertising for work in the Backpage.com ads? :bigsmile:

Re: Job searching advice

Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Screw resumes, cover letters and applications. Make them come to you, Rick. :bigsmile:

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:30 am

LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there.


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Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:37 am

I have never landed any job that required a cover letter. I stopped making cover letters years ago. To me, they are a waste of everyone's time.

We primarily take online applications. I don't know of anyone that came in for an application. If you can't fill out an online form, you can't do most of your job.

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:52 am

edogg wrote:LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there.


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What if they aren't on there?

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:01 am

Linkedin is a big +1

Fill out a profile, update your info, and search open jobs.

We post on Indeed, LinkedIn and even sometimes craigslist

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:11 am

Traut wrote:Screw resumes, cover letters and applications. Make them come all over you, Rick. :bigsmile:


FIFY.

Let the good times Rick Roll.

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:18 am

LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:52 am

dreadi wrote:
edogg wrote:LinkedIn is also hugely important. The first thing I do after quickly scanning someone's resume is to look them up there.


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What if they aren't on there?


If i have a resume from someone equally as qualified and who is on LinkedIn, they'll get the interview (assuming their profile has good stuff ok it).

The benefit of LinkedIn is that there are generally recommendations and more info than what's on a resume.


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Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:55 am

Guns4Liberty wrote:LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.


Same thing happens with resumes. Not just LinkedIn. That fleshes itself out during the phone screen or interview.

I also find it helpful when I'm interviewing. Every time I went on a loop, I looked up the people who were interviewing me. That way I could prepare questions tailored for each person.


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Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:04 am

edogg wrote:
Guns4Liberty wrote:LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.


Same thing happens with resumes. Not just LinkedIn. That fleshes itself out during the phone screen or interview.

Yes, but the difference is that a resume doesn't have fake endorsements from 50+ of the applicant's friends. Not only are people artificially inflating their own skills & experience, but they're getting their friends and coworkers to pile onto the facade, and then the favor is returned. Hence why I said it's just Facebook for professionals.

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:44 am

Guns4Liberty wrote:LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.


This is so true.... I looked at co-worker profiles to see what they put in there... AMAZING what some people will write - flat out lies... knowing the people and their skill set (or lack thereof) didn't jibe at all with their profile. And the "recommendations" ... what a bunch of bullshit.... buddies pumping up buddies --- it totally worthless... yet hr seems to put alot of weight on that shit.
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Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:46 am

JohnMBrowning wrote:
Guns4Liberty wrote:LinkedIn is just Facebook for "professionals"; you create the version of yourself you want everyone else to see, regardless of how well it matches reality. Very rarely do you get an accurate picture of who someone is from their LinkedIn profile. I've interviewed several candidates I found on LinkedIn...only 1 of them actually sounded like he had the skills & experience listed in his profile; the rest had just pumped themselves full of air online, only to be deflated in the interview process. I don't use it anymore.


This is so true.... I looked at co-worker profiles to see what they put in there... AMAZING what some people will write - flat out lies... knowing the people and their skill set (or lack thereof) didn't jibe at all with their profile. And the "recommendations" ... what a bunch of bullshit.... buddies pumping up buddies --- it totally worthless.


You guys act like this is something new. If I had a $1 for every resume I looked at that was "fluffed" more than it should be I would be a rich man.

LinkedIn helps solidify what jobs they had, and atleast the date ranges for the most part.

Re: Job searching advice

Mon Aug 14, 2017 10:59 am

L_O_G wrote:You guys act like this is something new. If I had a $1 for every resume I looked at that was "fluffed" more than it should be I would be a rich man.

LinkedIn helps solidify what jobs they had, and atleast the date ranges for the most part.

The "fluffing" aspect is not new...the friends endorsing the fluffing is new, and is enabled by the Facebook-like construct of the site.

For example, one of the candidates I interviewed was for an Import Logistics Coordinator position. The guy had on his profile that he had 3 years of international logistics experience, and was endorsed by several other individuals for skills like "Import" and "International Logistics". I dug into that experience during the interview, and the guy had never heard of incoterms, he struggled to define "drayage", and he had no clue what HS codes are. It was utter bullshit, endorsed by several "professionals". And that is why I don't put any stock in LinkedIn profiles.
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