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Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:22 pm

Throwing range brass isn't a new idea.
Gives the investigators a lot more work, but does give up a little bit about yourself.
Could end up with a security cam of you being there that day.

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:46 pm

Guntrader wrote:Your kidding, right?
Originally used to track counterfeiters with the new high resolution printers.
Now they use it to also track leaked movie scripts and other documents.
I'm actually working on a book on digital imaging/printer forensics.

I can usually look at a printed page and tell you what class of printer that was used to print the document.
All have distinctive roller patterns that leave an imprint on the paper.
Plus repetitive defects that not only isolate the pattern to the printer, they isolate it to the roller...................used in repairing printers.



https://qz.com/1002927/computer-printer ... r-decades/
TechnoWeenie wrote:
Guntrader wrote:In high resolution color printers there has been a code embedded in the printer and printed on the paper since at least 2004.


cite?



Written by
Keith Collins
June 10, 2017

In 2004, when color printers were still somewhat novel, PCWorld magazine published an article headlined: “Government Uses Color Laser Printer Technology to Track Documents.”

It was one of the first news reports on a quiet practice that had been going on for 20 years. It revealed that color printers embed in printed documents coded patterns that contain the printer’s serial number, and the date and time the documents were printed. The patterns are made up of dots, less than a millimeter in diameter and a shade of yellow that, when placed on a white background, cannot be detected by the naked eye.


It was an honest question. Thank you for the information...

:thumbsup2:

I know a lot, but I don't know everything...

I knew they used imperfections to prove a certain typewriter/printer typed/printed on a piece of paper, I didn't know they fucking serialized it and tracked it...

Re: Democrats to ban modern pistols with impractical require

Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:02 am

So for those who complained that the thread title was misleading, I have adjusted it.

Again, if you disagree then explain why every instance of this law has always been amended before passing to exempt LEOs?

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:10 am

Guntrader wrote:Throwing range brass isn't a new idea.
Gives the investigators a lot more work, but does give up a little bit about yourself.
Could end up with a security cam of you being there that day.


I wonder how it would work with reloaded ammo. There could be multiple codes on one shell.

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:43 am

Mike in Wa wrote:
Guntrader wrote:Throwing range brass isn't a new idea.
Gives the investigators a lot more work, but does give up a little bit about yourself.
Could end up with a security cam of you being there that day.


I wonder how it would work with reloaded ammo. There could be multiple codes on one shell.


Not if it's a primer stamp.

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:18 am

TINCANBANDIT wrote:
Alpine wrote:Forget the forensic commentary, how about the physics and functionality?

No comment?



he is only interesting in defending his party....


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Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:48 am

OhShoot! wrote:"and to prohibit the removal, obliteration, or alteration of the microstamped code or microstamping capability of a firearm."


Gosh, I sure hope criminals read and understand this part or the whole idea is useless.

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:22 pm

OhShoot! wrote:I'm at a loss to figure out how this a a slam on 2A rights. Gun owners should be accountable for every shell casing left at a crime scene. Law abiding gun owners have absolutely nothing to worry about with this bill in my opinion. That said, I still would be extremely wary to support such a bill. The 1911 was already designed perfectly, and does not need an update such as micro-stamping.



Until a criminal figures out they can just go to a gun range, gather a gloved handful of YOUR range brass, and leave it at their next crime scene.

The owner of that range brass fired gun is going to have some potentially costly and serious legal problems don'tcha think? Even if it's just being arrested and detained and having to hire a lawyer for a few hours, days, weeks, months... and having ALL of his weapons confiscated for an indefinite period, losing his CPL, etc. The strain that puts on friendships and marriages is inhuman as well... even if later cleared, you are still on records as being titled as a suspect in an assault or homicide. A bar or barrier to some employment.

Will also greatly impact reloading. How willing are folks going to be at giving up their brass.

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 1:49 pm

sreyemj wrote:
OhShoot! wrote:"and to prohibit the removal, obliteration, or alteration of the microstamped code or microstamping capability of a firearm."


Gosh, I sure hope criminals read and understand this part or the whole idea is useless.


That kind of sums up the chances this legislation would be in any way effective, doesn't it?

Re: Democrats craft bill to ban most modern handguns

Sat Aug 19, 2017 5:29 pm

Laws are to punish violators, not to stop the offenses from happening.
Because criminals.....well, you know.........
Corrections officers just keep them locked up, they don't actually correct them.

The penitentiary system of locking people up as a punishment is actually a relatively new concept.
Not too long ago they killed people for serious crimes and beat and/or publicly humiliated them for the minor ones.
Just locked them up until they figured out what to do with them.

mislabeled wrote:
sreyemj wrote:
OhShoot! wrote:"and to prohibit the removal, obliteration, or alteration of the microstamped code or microstamping capability of a firearm."


Gosh, I sure hope criminals read and understand this part or the whole idea is useless.


That kind of sums up the chances this legislation would be in any way effective, doesn't it?
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